Tim Lieweke leaving?

[Superjudge]

whether they did or didnt doesnt matter. The sentiment is that toronto is done, they are doomed now that he i sgone, and to me thats simply rubbish.

Thats all im saying.

TL was a good executive, but life beyond this fellow will b just fine.

[DanH]

Can't really know for sure if it was the 'winning' (they did lose in the first round), if it was MU or if it was really TL.. but a top 5 free agent resigned with the team and at a good deal considering some of the other signings.. one that was being recruited by teams that had star players and in warm weather climates (like Houston, LA and Miami).

That never really happened in the Raptors history before. I personally give the credit to TL on that signing. So I think it is going to suck without him around. Hope I'm wrong.

And whether it was TL or MU directly, TL was the one who got MU, so there's credit to be had there. And don't tell me MLSE would have hired MU on their own.

[Superjudge]

Meh. I don't see it. I see what he did, and I like it, but I suppose my thing is this...WhAT DID HE DO?

Really, what did he do? He was the guys allowed to spend the big money new ownership was gonna spend. Was it spent well? How's TFC? How's the Leafs? whats happening in Raptorland???

well the TFC is ok, new guy came through.... and he gets paid MASSIVELY, but they are still just average.

The leafs took a fantastic step backwards

The raptors continue don the path they were already on.... and should have continued on.

does he get credit...I think so, thy all do, but I dont see how he did anything more than any other younger guy could have done.

His biggest move....was breaking every promise he made by bolting the first chance he got when something better came along Wow...

[planetmars]

Can't really know for sure if it was the 'winning' (they did lose in the first round), if it was MU or if it was really TL.. but a top 5 free agent resigned with the team and at a good deal considering some of the other signings.. one that was being recruited by teams that had star players and in warm weather climates (like Houston, LA and Miami).

That never really happened in the Raptors history before. I personally give the credit to TL on that signing. So I think it is going to suck without him around. Hope I'm wrong.

[S.R.]

meh... I'm sorry man, but I think its silly.

He was fine, but the players....most of which were here before even MU, they were a huge part of success.... and a few key moves by the new GM. TL didnt do much of anything really.

I get the sentiment that it's the players on the court who play the games, not the suits in the office, but everyone from MU to the two big TFC signings are on the record as saying TL was a big reason they came to Toronto. The Raps just had three significant FA's re-sign with the franchise this summer, even though FA's are "supposed to" bolt Canada asap. Either TL's had a direct impact on having players play for MLSE teams, or I think you just increase your likelihood of attracting and retaining talent when you've got a clearly competent situation from top to bottom with a profile on the rise. Players want to play in good situations.

Imho he's easily the best front-office leader this franchise has had in 19 years.

[Superjudge]

meh... I'm sorry man, but I think its silly.

He was fine, but the players....most of which were here before even MU, they were a huge part of success.... and a few key moves by the new GM. TL didnt do much of anything really.

[Mr.Z]

I truly, truly believe that all this curfuffle is a bit ridiculous. As fans we get crazy during the offseason. TL leaving means nothing to the Raptors. nothing at all.

How? Until we know who's replacing him we don't know what his leaving means. It definitely not nothing to lose an "Owner" who wants his teams to succeed and is willing to put the money and effort into turning this franchise around.

[S.R.]

I truly, truly believe that all this curfuffle is a bit ridiculous. As fans we get crazy during the offseason. TL leaving means nothing to the Raptors. nothing at all.

Masai Ujiri. 2016 ASG. Drake. Practice facility (in spite of direct opposition from the mayor of the flipping city - it's on city land - when Colangelo, a polished exec in his own right, couldn't even get the practice facility project past the MLSE board, let alone anywhere near city council).

You're right, in the last year TL has had no impact on the Raps, and missing out on the last 3 years of his contract won't mean anything to this franchise. Bring in the next suit. They're all the same.

[Superjudge]

I truly, truly believe that all this curfuffle is a bit ridiculous. As fans we get crazy during the offseason. TL leaving means nothing to the Raptors. nothing at all.

[Bendit]

I did not hear the interview but TL was scheduled for one at 10 am this morning on FAN590...his first since the announcement I believe.

[JordanMariam14]

Heard Tim is trying to get ACC a new scoreboard!

[DanH]

Yeah, 38-2 vote.

[rocwell]

It did get approved though, right?

Yes. Only Rob and Doug Fords voted No.

[mcHAPPY]

Rob Ford voted against new raptors practice facility. Punk. ( Doug Ford too. )

It did get approved though, right?

[rocwell]

Rob Ford voted against new raptors practice facility. Punk. ( Doug Ford too. )