Everything NBA 2020-21

[LJ2]

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They're actually having pretty similar seasons. both are good defenders, Fred is close to 20/4/6, Jrue closer 17/5/5. Difference is Jrue is the stating PG on the 5th best team in the league, and Fred's team is out of the playoff picture at the moment. Still, that Jrue contract is 40M/yr, he's not that kind of player, and that's not even considering he's turning 31 this season.

Jrue is also a lot more efficient than Freddy this season but that's not worth another $20m more a year. Crazy.

[Maury]

Jrue's upside as a creator is a bit higher IMO in high leverage playoff games when compared to Fred. Obviously, I'm not sure I buy all of what Jrue does because, despite the fact that he's supposed to be the analytical darling, defensive stud, and overall winner, he hasn't accomplished anything while playing with some pretty incredible players. We'll see this year, though.

[The Great One]

Bucks had no choice. That’s the cost of keeping Giannis happy. What a crazy high cost, though. Bucks have 3 max players and no legit closer.

They're like Charles Barkley's Phoenix Suns.

Barkley = Giannis
Kevin Johnson = Holiday
Majerle = Middleton

[S.R.]

The only way that works for the Bucks is if Giannis addresses his flaws and they get a great supporting cast. Because as long as Giannis has no jump shot and can be game planned in a playoff series, that Big 3 is not on par with the top 2 or 3 in the league any given season.

[Kagemusha]

The only way that works for the Bucks is if Giannis addresses his flaws and they get a great supporting cast. Because as long as Giannis has no jump shot and can be game planned in a playoff series, that Big 3 is not on par with the top 2 or 3 in the league any given season.

A better coach should be able to 'fix' those flaws. Most coaches have become too in love with this modern basketball concept that they desperately try to integrate it into their systems instead of taking advantage and making full use of their players's strengths.

[Maury]

I put some money on the Nuggets to win it all after the Aaron Gordon trade. +1500 odds felt like a good bet.

[slaw]

A better coach should be able to 'fix' those flaws. Most coaches have become too in love with this modern basketball concept that they desperately try to integrate it into their systems instead of taking advantage and making full use of their players's strengths.

Not sure any coach can make a player to shoot a three better. These teams have decades of technical experience within the organization to help players with things like shooting but ultimately the player has to be able to execute. Guys like Simmons and Giannis need to not only work on getting better but they also actually need to be capable of doing it. I can't imagine anyone worked harder than Derozan on a three-ball and he was never able to conquer it.

For Giannis, it's may end up being a situation where he never develops a consistent jumper and needs to move inside and relinquish ball handling and playmaking to other players down the stretch of games but that's less a system problem than a personnel issue.

[A.I]

The only way that works for the Bucks is if Giannis addresses his flaws and they get a great supporting cast. Because as long as Giannis has no jump shot and can be game planned in a playoff series, that Big 3 is not on par with the top 2 or 3 in the league any given season.

Either Giannis develops a jumpshot or you pair him with a perimeter oriented elite level shot creator at the guard spot and use Giannis as a big man and not someone who brings the ball up, like how Shaq had Kobe or Wade. Middleton and Holiday don't cut it.

Raptors created the gameplan to shut Giannis down whenever he brings the ball up. There is only one place he can go and thats in the paint.

[golden]

A better coach should be able to 'fix' those flaws. Most coaches have become too in love with this modern basketball concept that they desperately try to integrate it into their systems instead of taking advantage and making full use of their players's strengths.

A better coach already did "fix" almost all of Giannis' flaws, when the Bucks swapped out Jason Kidd for Bud. Voila.... 2 regular season MVPs. Giannis is about as 'system optimized' as a player can possibly get in the NBA. No coach or system can give him a reliable jump shot & shot creation ability in crunch time..... that requires skill+talent+work and it's all on him to improve that.

[marvulous]

Long time reader but first time poster. Time to pop my cherry! Been a Raptors fan since day one. Stuck at home home schooling the kids so I have to keep myself occupied somehow.

Bucks are good and Giannis will always make them a playoff team, but Giannis without a jump shot in this day and age with the 3-ball will never lead the Bucks to a championship. Every team knows to build the wall against Giannis come playoff time and that will always be the Bucks' downfall. Middleton is overrated and will have a good game followed by a bad game. Giannis and Ben Simmons are cut from the same cloth and have their freaky athleticism to make up for their lack of shooting, but without a jumper they will never be champions so long as they are leading their teams. Look at the past number of championship teams and they all had shooting superstars.

[marvulous]

Agreed. A big 3 of Giannis, Holiday and Middleton won't cut it.

Agreed as well. Middleton can go from being a game changer to a no show the next game, while Holiday is not efficient on the offensive end. Giannis, well, he just can't shoot. Couple all this with a weaker supporting cast and the Bucks are out round 2.

[JawsGT]

And all that makes the giannis dream to TO still possible.

[S.R.]

Either Giannis develops a jumpshot or you pair him with a perimeter oriented elite level shot creator at the guard spot and use Giannis as a big man and not someone who brings the ball up, like how Shaq had Kobe or Wade. Middleton and Holiday don't cut it.

Raptors created the gameplan to shut Giannis down whenever he brings the ball up. There is only one place he can go and thats in the paint.

Brogdon + better perimeter shooters was really their peak year imho

[MixxAOR]

Brogdon + better perimeter shooters was really their peak year imho

Losing to Raptors is going to be their biggest "what if" i feel. that was their year

[Kagemusha]

Not sure any coach can make a player to shoot a three better. These teams have decades of technical experience within the organization to help players with things like shooting but ultimately the player has to be able to execute. Guys like Simmons and Giannis need to not only work on getting better but they also actually need to be capable of doing it. I can't imagine anyone worked harder than Derozan on a three-ball and he was never able to conquer it.

For Giannis, it's may end up being a situation where he never develops a consistent jumper and needs to move inside and relinquish ball handling and playmaking to other players down the stretch of games but that's less a system problem than a personnel issue.

Not talking about fixing his shot,
but taking advantage of his other strengths instead.