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The Great One wrote: View PostI don't really understand what Russillo's laughing about. Hakeem was better than Shaq. Shaq said it himself on Inside the NBA last night. He said that Hakeem was way better than him. And we know Shaq is not most humble guy when it comes to "who's better" argument.
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KeonClark wrote: View Post
He might have been "better", as in more well rounded and skilled. But, and Shaq had a better peak and a better career. Gimme 2000 Shaq over any center in history.
When a player isn't just skilled as an individual, but bends the league like that - there are very few guys who do that."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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golden wrote: View Post
A bit late, but Randle had no business winning this award. Other than raw PPG (barely), he actually had better seasons than this year in most statistical categories (especially advanced). MIP has never been a last year vs. this year award, like the graphic is showing. The only reason Randle won MIP was because it was the Knicks and they were winning.... so this is really a team award. It was a cool story and everybody wanted the Knicks to be relevant again.
Also it was a Thibs team, and Thibs has developed a bit of a Bud-like trend of nice regular seasons and short playoff runs. One argument in his favour is he's rarely coached teams with a top 10 guy, and how deep do you really want to go in the NBA playoffs without a top player. This is what happens to the B-level guys - they don't have another gear, they can't counter adjustments, they're just not at that level."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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KeonClark wrote: View Post
He might have been "better", as in more well rounded and skilled. But, and Shaq had a better peak and a better career. Gimme 2000 Shaq over any center in history.
I'm taking prime Hakeem over prime Shaq or any C in history anyday.Mamba Mentality
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I mentioned this in the draft thread. Shaq was an athlete. Like a crazy great one. But he was missing some key elements of his game like shooting. In today's NBA you can build a wall around him and he's screwed. Hakeem had skills but wasn't a force like Shaq. Still an athlete but in a different way. It's like how Embiid has found a way to be an MVP caliber player in today's NBA.
In the NBA a skilled guy can beat an athlete. It's why Jokic and Luka are so good and a guy like Russ, despite his triple doubles, is a guy nobody really wants on their team.
Shaq needed a Wade and Kobe. Hakeem did it with a meh version of Drexler, and Vernon Maxwell.
Although in fairness Hakeem never had the best team in the regular season either. He was always middle of the pack in the West, and kept losing to teams like Utah, Seattle, Phoenix and San Antonio.. and just looking at basketball reference seems like his teams lost in the first round like 7 times. Imagine if that happened to someone in today's NBA? He'd get roasted for that.
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Hakeem was great and I don't want to take too much away but those two chips were definitely in a lull in the league, MJ was out, Shaq and Penny weren't ready yet, the Bad Boys were done...Houston didn't exactly push past a long line of contenders to get those rings."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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The Great One wrote: View PostHow many championships did Shaq win without Kobe or Wade?planetmars wrote: View PostShaq needed a Wade and Kobe. Hakeem did it with a meh version of Drexler, and Vernon Maxwell.
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golden wrote: View PostOG didn't get a single vote.
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