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Suns are probably a good example of what Raps should look like once we add a legit scoring threat. They have some good defenders around Booker.golden wrote: View PostComment
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Ok.TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
Question, are you a Beal fan? do you want the Raps to trade for him?Mamba MentalityComment
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The rules made it harder to play defense. Offense is way more valuable right now.
Kawhi and George are elite 2-way talents, but Doncic doesn't care because the rules favour him and not them.
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Most of the elite offensive guards/wingers in today's game are not good defenders. Steph, Harden, Booker, Luka, LaVine, Dame, Kyrie, Beal, Murray. I'm sure i'm missing a couple more. I'd love to have any of these guys on the Raps. If the Raps trade for any of these guys they'd be back in contention next year.golden wrote: View Post
The only elite offensive players in this league that also plays D are Kawhi, LeBron, Durant and Klay Thompson. Butler? good defender but his offense is not good enough to be put in that level.
I keep reading defense, defense, defense. Who'd you rather have Butler or Booker? lol.Mamba MentalityComment
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Another is Michael Porter Jr. Elite offensive player, not a very good defender. I'd take that guy on my team anyday(assuming his back is 100% healthy).Mamba MentalityComment
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Yep. We need a scorer now. Every good team needs an offence-defence balance. You're not gonna make the finals lopsided one way or the other.golden wrote: View Post
Historically through the Derozan years, we were lopsided with relatively good offence and great regular season success, but with a poor team defence that got exposed in the playoffs (not just because of Demar, but other role players and starters too, including JV to some extent).
Then the 'culture reset' came, and part of it was a shift to a defensive focus. We got two former DPOY's in Kawhi and Gasol, and gradually instilled a really intricate and physically demanding defence with Nurse. That gave us the championship.
The pendulum kept going too far in that direction though. We created some kind of defensive obsession in which we were totally fine acquiring and giving ample minutes to 1-way, floor-shrinking offensive black holes (eg. RHJ, McCaw, Stanley, bembry, after-wash Gasol), but had zero tolerance for players that were good offensively but needed more time to adjust to the Raptors defensive schemes (which are among the most complex and varied on the league)
It's time to balance things out again. It's fine that our young players can develop in a strong defensive mindset and that "Box-and-1" t-shirts were printed and all, but at the end of the day someone needs to put the ball in the dang basket. That's why we to prioritize drafting a scorer/offensive minded player, even if their defence is still questionable, regardless of our draft position. We can all be pretty sure no Phoenix fan is complaining about blown defensive coverages by Booker after he dropped 47 to bounce Lebron in the first round.Comment
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Yep.planetmars wrote: View Post
Adam Silver: NBA Rule Changes Having Intended Effect of Increasing Scoring
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...easing-scoring
Adam Silver upbeat on NBA's scoring surge, cites rule changes
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...fense-intendedComment
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Starting to like Giddey a bit more. His offensive game is more diverse and refined than I originally thought. The competition in Australia makes it really tough to evaluate like I’ve said before but worst case scenario we fall back to 8 or 9, giddey will be there and could be a really fantastic fit in the backcourt long term next to Fred or Gary.
Watched some Bouknight as well. Looks very solid. I think this has to be one of the best drafts I’ve seen (from a pre-draft standpoint) in a long time. Seems like there’s a wing scorer in every tier who is young enough and promising enough to be worth investing in for this team. I think there are probably 5-10 guys that I’d be very happy drafting. Bouknight, Moody, Johnson, Jalen Green, Kuminga, Cunningham, Suggs, Mobley, Springer... all of these guys would give us a serious injection of talent and at least one if not several of them will be available when we’re on the clock.Comment
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Depends on the defense they play. If its average/passable and they are an elite offensive player, then thats great. Basically their offensive contribution has to outweigh their defensive flaws, if that doesn't happen, it becomes a problem.planetmars wrote: View PostComment
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I am a Beal fan, no I don't want to trade for him. I think it will again take too much to get him. It would involve siakam more than likely not just FVV, it may even require OG. People were suggesting earlier in the year that we trade OG for Beal and its like no you don't trade your best two defensive players.The Great One wrote: View Post
If you cant tell by now I believe that OG and Siakam paired together is a great pairing and THAT pairing is one dude away from something but it has to be the right dude.Comment
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Luka yes, dame yes, Murray yes, booker yes, steph yes, harden likely, Murray is coming here anyways at some point more than likely.The Great One wrote: View PostComment
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Booker obviously but again your offense has to be booker level or dame level to overcome bad defence. OR you need a team surrounding that player that is very defensively minded. The guys you named are all guys I'd love to have on this team. Kawhi, Lebron, Durant, Thompson. Those are all guys that put you over the top....The Great One wrote: View Post
Otherwise why not just get Wiggins..... NO THANKS.Comment
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precisely my point. Thank you. Yeah, that is it right there. If the defense is not good enough. Doesn't have to be elite but has to be good enough that you are a net positive. Otherwise, the pressure it puts on the rest of the defense is immense and it becomes very easy to break.A.I wrote: View Post
The reason why the nets are so incredible is that they are essentially so good on offense that they can just brute force their way through the east. Their brand of basketball isn't even that great or nice because they basically do this routine where everyone takes their turn on iso... but their iso is just that good collectively. I would love to see Utah vs the Nets if the Nets somehow make it past the Bucks. They likely will but they will be challenged. Sixers likely won't happen because Embiid struggles with bumps and bruises all the time.
The other thing too is if you have one super start player you need to have every other player be defensively close to an OG and Siakam level to truly make it work.
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