They all have star potential until they don't. Somebody in the late first round or second round we never heard of could end up being a star or one of Mobley, Green, Suggs or Cade could end up being a bust. I won't call Barnes garbage until we see him play for a few seasons, same goes for any of the players in the draft.
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Primer wrote: View PostBarnes is garbage. Can't shoot. Can't rebound. Can't run half court offense. He's a defensive specialist who will be way too much of a liability to leave on the court for extended periods of time.
His best scouting reports all they can say is he's long and a good defender, because that's literally all he is good at.
I'm going to lose my mind if we pass on a surefire All Star in Suggs to draft Barnes. He brings literally nothing to the table this team needs. We have great Sf/PF defenders in OG and Pascal. We need rebounding which Barnes is allergic to. We need scoring which Barnes is incapable of. Barnes is a surefire bust.
Only one thing matters: We The Champs.
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MixxAOR wrote: View Post
Had 11 blocks on a whole season and 35 steals while Suggs only had 10 blocks and 57 steals.
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I’m with Primer, I’ll lose my shit if we draft Barnes. A day later I’ll accept it and trust Masai and Bobby. I really don’t see it though.
He was just a guy bringing up the ball, he didn’t do anything spectacular to create offence. Can’t rebound (on D he was around the rim a lot), can’t shoot, slightly more coordinated athlete than OG but still stiff and robotic. Good defender, he might be a nice guy and works hard but so are other guys with more skills.
Not one media member will know what the Raptors preferences are, so I wouldn’t trust any reports. It’s all games and smoke screens right now.
I’ll be shocked if it’s not one of Suggs, Mobley or Green.
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saints91 wrote: View PostWho we taking in the second round?
So here are some guys we worked out (or will work out soon):
Jalen Crutcher
Marcus Zegarowski
Geo Baker
Joe Wieskamp
Balsa Koprivica
Scottie Lewis
Neemias Queta
Vrenz Bleijenbergh (this one is today)
Javonte Smart
McKinley Wright
Keon Johnson (potential lottery pick though)
AJ Lawson
Jonathan Kuminga (lottery)
Scottie Barnes (lottery)
There are 7 days left.. so maybe we'll hear of others.
From this list I like Queta, Vrenz and Wieskamp. AJ Lawson physically looks a lot like McCaw and apparently Nurse was at his workout. So he could be a lock
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planetmars wrote: View Post
I suspect at least one of the guys they pick will be a guy we worked out. I remember us working out Flynn last year, and we took him.
So here are some guys we worked out (or will work out soon):
Jalen Crutcher
Marcus Zegarowski
Geo Baker
Joe Wieskamp
Balsa Koprivica
Scottie Lewis
Neemias Queta
Vrenz Bleijenbergh (this one is today)
Javonte Smart
McKinley Wright
Keon Johnson (potential lottery pick though)
AJ Lawson
Jonathan Kuminga (lottery)
Scottie Barnes (lottery)
There are 7 days left.. so maybe we'll hear of others.
From this list I like Queta, Vrenz and Wieskamp. AJ Lawson physically looks a lot like McCaw and apparently Nurse was at his workout. So he could be a lock
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So, what are you up to a week from today? Yes...it’s ONE WEEK away!! 7 DAYS!! The next time you wake up on a Thursday, you will be waking up to draft day (with apologies to all the shift workers, nappers and international fans out there). By the looks of the last post, it may be a hectic week. Seems like there are a lot of moving parts. But that’s not what I focus on here. It’s celebrating the 7 day mark. And for this, we go way way back. To where it all began (again, with apologies to BJ Armstrong). The pick that started this whole adventure.....
No.....not that guy......
This guy!
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MixxAOR wrote: View Post
1) This is a complete BS smokescreen by the Cavs to get an auction going for their pick
2) Raps really, really like Mobley
3) Raps don't like Suggs at all. Or think he's a bad fit or duplication with FVV. That would also correlate with the Raps so-called interest in Barnes.
4) Could be another smokescreen coming from the Magic... but what's their agenda?
5) None of the above
Given that the Raps FO never leaks.... first guess would be that it's coming from the Cavs, especially since they leaked 2 teams in competition for their asset.
It's going to be an interesting week around here. lol.
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The original report came from Kevin O'Connor of the Ringer, and not from some Cavs fan site. But you still have to take with a grain of salt. Lots of smoke this time of year.
I don't like the fact that we haven't worked out Suggs though, or at least hasn't been mentioned publicly yet. Still 7 days to go though.
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Let me be clear first, I am not Anti-Suggs whatsoever as I always consider the draft as a crapshoot (unless they are for sure projected generational talent), therefore any of these guys are still projects requiring time to develop until they prove otherwise the moment they step on that NBA court the first time.
That being said, is the fascination on Suggs stems from the moment he made that “Hail Mary†shot against UCLA? Because if that memory in the past is so stuck in people’s minds then that is unfortunate. We already have a resident Hail Mary chucker in Van Vleet.
I am not surprise though because one pre-ejaculator of this forum already consider him as a potential HOFer. Lol.
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golden wrote: View Post
A few thoughts:
1) This is a complete BS smokescreen by the Cavs to get an auction going for their pick
2) Raps really, really like Mobley
3) Raps don't like Suggs at all. Or think he's a bad fit or duplication with FVV. That would also correlate with the Raps so-called interest in Barnes.
4) Could be another smokescreen coming from the Magic... but what's their agenda?
5) None of the above
Given that the Raps FO never leaks.... first guess would be that it's coming from the Cavs, especially since they leaked 2 teams in competition for their asset.
It's going to be an interesting week around here. lol.Only one thing matters: We The Champs.
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