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The Great One wrote: View Post
Based on what?
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magoon wrote: View PostThis article makes the comprehensive case for Scottie Barnes:
https://deanondraft.com/2021/06/15/h...cottie-barnes/
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You're not drafting Barnes to be a shooter or primary scorer. If you are the Raptors and you draft him you're doing so to push the pace and run on every possession. Think fast break points, quick outlets etc. And of course on defense you would have a guy with a lot of length, speed, switchability instead of...Baynes.
It's safe to say in time his shooting should improve, but you'd probably bet against him being more than a catch and shoot guy.
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LJ2 wrote: View PostYou're not drafting Barnes to be a shooter or primary scorer. If you are the Raptors and you draft him you're doing so to push the pace and run on every possession. Think fast break points, quick outlets etc. And of course on defense you would have a guy with a lot of length, speed, switchability instead of...Baynes.
It's safe to say in time his shooting should improve, but you'd probably bet against him being more than a catch and shoot guy.
If Pascal was a better shooter, and we had a better stretch big.. than I could understand Barnes.. but we don't. He maybe the BPA.. but there is a cost when the fit can be so bad.
I'd rather take a 3&D floor guy like Moody. He has great defensive instincts too if that's what you like about Barnes.
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planetmars wrote: View Post
Our team doesn't need a Draymond Green though. Pascal and Fred (and Lowry) are our main initiators. We also have Malachi off the bench. We don't need another.. and if he doesn't have the ball in his hands, does he become a liability on offense? We struggle as is, but to go 4-5 on on offense for most possessions will be tough.
If Pascal was a better shooter, and we had a better stretch big.. than I could understand Barnes.. but we don't. He maybe the BPA.. but there is a cost when the fit can be so bad.
I'd rather take a 3&D floor guy like Moody. He has great defensive instincts too if that's what you like about Barnes.
We don't need another initiator? Lowry may very well be gone for one and taking the ball out of FVV's hands does a lot of things including moves Freddy into a more natural position for him as a SG/off ball guy, it also throws the other team out of whack when they have to account for Barnes with the ball. How many guys big enough to guard Barnes can stay in front of him on defense? With Freddy off ball along with OG, Trent on the perimeter teams can't cheat and now have to guard a very big and athletic ball handler one on one.
Basically I'm saying Barnes has a unique skill set for a big, so you have to think about how it could be used to our advantage. Just picture him in place of Baynes in the starting line up and tell me we wouldn't be much, much better. The defense alone should be ridiculous.
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LJ2 wrote: View Post
Well there are arguments which can be made about a lot of that. Maybe we DO need a Draymond Green type guy because quite frankly having Baynes out there at C cost us a bunch of games this season. Barnes as a small ball C fixes a lot of that.
We don't need another initiator? Lowry may very well be gone for one and taking the ball out of FVV's hands does a lot of things including moves Freddy into a more natural position for him as a SG/off ball guy, it also throws the other team out of whack when they have to account for Barnes with the ball. How many guys big enough to guard Barnes can stay in front of him on defense? With Freddy off ball along with OG, Trent on the perimeter teams can't cheat and now have to guard a very big and athletic ball handler one on one.
Basically I'm saying Barnes has a unique skill set for a big, so you have to think about how it could be used to our advantage. Just picture him in place of Baynes in the starting line up and tell me we wouldn't be much, much better. The defense alone should be ridiculous.
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planetmars wrote: View Post
He's a PF not a C.. we also tried OG and Pascal at the 5 and it didn't really work.. maybe for the playoffs but not the regular season.
If the Raps think one of the available wings is going to be a star then you pick them of course. If not wouldn't you rather get a F/C? That way you could have your 5 best players on the floor at the same time instead of 4 and one of your best players on the bench.
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LJ2 wrote: View Post
He's a big and we're talking small ball C, and especially the end of games when it's winning time.
If the Raps think one of the available wings is going to be a star then you pick them of course. If not wouldn't you rather get a F/C? That way you could have your 5 best players on the floor at the same time instead of 4 and one of your best players on the bench.Mamba Mentality
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