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LJ2 wrote: View Post
Lol, guy is acting like a diva and you want that in the Raps locker room?
Only one thing matters: We The Champs.
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The Great One wrote: View Post
He has an ego because of that post? ego is not a bad thing btw.
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planetmars wrote: View PostI don't think the Raps take Green if he keeps falling. He doesn't scream Raptor player to me. No defense.. has a bit of an ego. So if he falls he's going to Orlando IMO.
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planetmars wrote: View PostI don't think the Raps take Green if he keeps falling. He doesn't scream Raptor player to me. No defense.. has a bit of an ego. So if he falls he's going to Orlando IMO.
That screenshot is just him saying he doesn't wanna play for Houston or Cleveland which all things considered I wouldn't want to either.
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magoon wrote: View PostI'm not holding up Chad Ford as being some wizard of draft prognostication as to player quality; he's really mediocre at that. I'm saying: Chad Ford's mock drafts are based on what front offices are telling him, and he tends to have decent sources in most organizations that aren't the Raptors. If you want to know what the majority of NBA front offices think about the draft - bearing in mind many of them get these things wrong sometimes - Ford is an excellent window into their mindsets.
For the 2016 draft (and I'm looking at the archived copy, not the current page on ESPN), he nailed seven out of fourteen lottery picks, correctly stated that Kris Dunn was Minnesota's preferred lottery pick (although he wasn't sure if Boston would take Dunn or Jaylen Brown, so his mock had Minnesota taking Jamal Murray, their second choice; if he had gone with the Celtics drafting Brown instead he would have gotten ten out of fourteen), and placed another eight players within two slots of where they went in the first round. As mock drafting goes, that's more accurate than most; as the draft progresses the variance in picks increases, after all.
Ford is worth paying attention to because the draft is affected more by front office perceptions of player than the actual quality of those players. NBA execs are as susceptible to groupthink as anybody else, which is why the 2014 NBA draft drama was around Andrew Wiggins versus Jabari Parker rather than Joel Embiid versus Nikola Jokic. And his sourcing is useful: according to him, OKC and Cleveland both have Scottie Barnes ahead of Jalen Suggs on their boards, and OKC has Barnes ahead of Kuminga as well. That's important for us to know if we want to consider trading down.
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This is the correct analysis. Saying Ford isn't good because the order he listed isn't the best possible 5 years later is judging him based on something he is not doing. He's predicting who teams will pick based on insider info. He's not saying this player will be better 5 years from now than the next guy on my list.
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Primer wrote: View Post
Where was it reported he's falling?
That screenshot is just him saying he doesn't wanna play for Houston or Cleveland which all things considered I wouldn't want to either.
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golden wrote: View Post
It's probably just a low-key flex that he thinks he should be drafted #1 ahead of Cade.
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planetmars wrote: View PostI don't think the Raps take Green if he keeps falling. He doesn't scream Raptor player to me. No defense.. has a bit of an ego. So if he falls he's going to Orlando IMO.
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Primer wrote: View Post
Where was it reported he's falling?
That screenshot is just him saying he doesn't wanna play for Houston or Cleveland which all things considered I wouldn't want to either.
He's PROBABLY my least preferred option between himself, Suggs, and Mobley but the difference I have between the three is so microscopic that it barely exists. I see absolutely no problem with this. Especially given that unlike the latter two; I was able to see what he could do in the G League (well, the ones against the 905s).
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To be fair, those are the type of players that end up being great. The ones that think they're the best. Thats the type of player the Raptors need, has an ego, thinks he can beat anyone alpha mentality but not to the point where it can be a problem and has the skills to back up that mentality which he seems to possess, just needs the right coach and players around him to develop.Last edited by Just Is; Tue Jul 6, 2021, 06:47 PM."My biggest concern as a coach is to not confuse winning with progress." - Steve Kerr
"If it's unacceptable in defeat, it's unacceptable in victory." - Jeff Van Gundy
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Just Is wrote: View PostJust like teams interview players to get a read on them; players can also do the same. Maybe he wants to be drafted 1st and if he can't be that; he'd prefer to join a winning club with the #4 pick?
He's PROBABLY my least preferred option between himself, Suggs, and Mobley but the difference I have between the three is so microscopic that it barely exists. I see absolutely no problem with this. Especially given that unlike the latter two; I was able to see what he could do in the G League (well, the ones against the 905s).
The closest comparison to this that I can think of offhand was when Durant went 2nd. Honestly; if he thinks he should BE first and is not first; I think that would actually make him want to leave no doubts about it in the future. Could be a very good thing given all of the great things said about him by his Ignite teammates.
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The Great One wrote: View Post
How do you know a player have the drive to be great? what kind of answer are you looking for? do you ever listen to Kuzma talk? that guy talks like he's Kobe Bryant.
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