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  • #46
    golden wrote: View Post

    That’s more on Nurse. Brissett got cut because he couldn’t shoot 3s, which is almost a non-negotiable for a Nurse player. That was the main difference between him and Yuta, because Oshae is a great defender.

    Crazy thing is now Brissett is hitting his 3s.
    Now he's shooting 45% from three. So front office should've done their homework. Don't have to listen to the coach. And doesn't explain keeping Stanley and after they waived McCaw they could've picked up Brissett.
    Last edited by MixxAOR; Sun May 2, 2021, 01:00 PM.
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    • #47
      shit Id keep Brissett over Bembry too.
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      • #48
        MixxAOR wrote: View Post

        Doesn't explain keeping Stanley
        Yes it does. Stanley was hitting his 3s early on and looked like he was going to have a bounce back season. You need 3&D as a priority to get minutes with Nurse. Plus, Stanley was under a regular contract, while Oshae and Yuta were still scuffling to get a real deal.

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        • #49
          golden wrote: View Post

          Yes it does. Stanley was hitting his 3s early on and looked like he was going to have a bounce back season. You need 3&D as a priority to get minutes with Nurse. Plus, Stanley was under a regular contract, while Oshae and Yuta were still scuffling to get a real deal.
          Should've waived Stanley. It's ok Masai fucks up sometimes. More than anything it was the surgery that ruined Oshae's chances. Which sucks
          Last edited by MixxAOR; Sun May 2, 2021, 01:10 PM.
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          • #50
            MixxAOR wrote: View Post

            Should've waived Stanley. It's ok Masai fucks up sometimes. More than anything it was the surgery that ruined Oshae's chances. Which sucks
            For sure, should’ve waived Stanley and McCaw last year.

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            • #51
              If Linsanity ever told me anything, its don't overreact to a hot streak.

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              • #52
                golden wrote: View Post

                For sure, should’ve waived Stanley and McCaw last year.
                Masai would have been immediately downgraded to Super Villain status if Kawhi had tanked his season as a Raptor, thus team not getting the chip all at the expense of trading one of the beloved Raptor of all time.

                He is still the God around here
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                • #53
                  A.I wrote: View Post
                  If Linsanity ever told me anything, its don't overreact to a hot streak.
                  Yeah, Oshae’s 3-pt shooting is not sustainable. But all the hustle, energy stuff is. He’s basically the Canadian version of Yuta with a lot more athleticism but less length.

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                  • #54
                    Says the one who said the “the sky is not falling” after a 2-8 start

                    Lol
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                    • #55
                      golden wrote: View Post

                      Yeah, Oshae’s 3-pt shooting is not sustainable. But all the hustle, energy stuff is. He’s basically the Canadian version of Yuta with a lot more athleticism but less length.
                      He would have been nice to keep over Bembry, Stanley or McCaw given he is 22, but not only because of his current hot streak. Yuta has been playing well for majority of this season though.

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                      • #56
                        Always find the excuse lol.

                        Do you think Oshae would be better if given the opportunity to play all season as a Raptor comparable to the exposure that Yuta was given?

                        try again to correlate with what you all said lol

                        no one is overreacting here

                        But sky is falling though lol
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                        • #57
                          Yuta is good on his role, he's an energetic defender, covers a lot of ground, handles the ball well for a big, and is shooting over 40% from 3 this year. The fact a guy we waived is having a hot streak on another team at the moment doesn't negate that.

                          That said, when brissett got waived I thought on positional need alone he should've been the one to keep as opposed to Stanley/bembry/ McCaw. Now with the hindsight of him playing so well, it's even more evident.

                          A lot of if comes down to stable minutes though. When brissett was here, Nurse still was on his "quick hook" methodology of development. There were a ton of guys fighting for position in the shortened training camp. He wanted to quickly arrive at his set rotation, so he would play guys in short 5 minutes spurts with with very little tolerance for errors . He didn't get to take a proper look at brissett on stable minutes.

                          Out of necessity later on (because of injuries/covid), he changed his approach and gave stable minutes to Stanley, Yuta, Malachi & Watson. Stanley didn't quite take off, but we discovered Yuta, Malachi and Watson could grow a lot more playing without a gun to their heads and knowing they'd have stable minutes.

                          It sounds counter-intuitive, but if you really want to develop/discover a player's true game, you have to give them stable minutes even before they properly "earned" them. You need to give an ample canvas for them to paint, THEN you look at it and decide to shelve or play the guy. brissett didn't get that here. G-league, 2 minute spurts with games already decided, and practice time doesn't count.

                          Conclusion: If anything good came out of this season is that it forced Nurse to understand that you have to give stable minutes outside your favourite guys, if you want to find out what you really have, and help your role players develop confidence and rhythm.
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                          • #58
                            inthepaint wrote: View Post
                            Yuta is good on his role, he's an energetic defender, covers a lot of ground, handles the ball well for a big, and is shooting over 40% from 3 this year. The fact a guy we waived is having a hot streak on another team at the moment doesn't negate that.

                            That said, when brissett got waived I thought on positional need alone he should've been the one to keep as opposed to Stanley/bembry/ McCaw. Now with the hindsight of him playing so well, it's even more evident.

                            A lot of if comes down to stable minutes though. When brissett was here, Nurse still was on his "quick hook" methodology of development. There were a ton of guys fighting for position in the shortened training camp. He wanted to quickly arrive at his set rotation, so he would play guys in short 5 minutes spurts with with very little tolerance for errors . He didn't get to take a proper look at brissett on stable minutes.

                            Out of necessity later on (because of injuries/covid), he changed his approach and gave stable minutes to Stanley, Yuta, Malachi & Watson. Stanley didn't quite take off, but we discovered Yuta, Malachi and Watson could grow a lot more playing without a gun to their heads and knowing they'd have stable minutes.

                            It sounds counter-intuitive, but if you really want to develop/discover a player's true game, you have to give them stable minutes even before they properly "earned" them. You need to give an ample canvas for them to paint, THEN you look at it and decide to shelve or play the guy. brissett didn't get that here. G-league, 2 minute spurts with games already decided, and practice time doesn't count.

                            Conclusion: If anything good came out of this season is that it forced Nurse to understand that you have to give stable minutes outside your favourite guys, if you want to find out what you really have, and help your role players develop confidence and rhythm.
                            great post inp...

                            though Remembered that I got one RR resident push back and two likes from his cohorts of that post about Flynn’s and his minutes (“Nurse is just not giving away 25 minutes to Flynn”)

                            bottomline...these developing players needs repetitions and exposure

                            Still fresh in my memory bank those games McCaw get first dibs from his Coach over TD (after a great game prior), Oshae (while team is needing length in a game), Thomas (team needing a three point spark off the bench) and even at the expense of OG and Norm.

                            if not for Daddy Flynn...son Malachi would still be rubbing his behind on that wooded bench and possibly McCaw not waived

                            Saint Nick Nurse is human after all lol
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                            • #59
                              I really like what Yuta brings to the game every time he steps foot on the court. Never have to question his hustle and effort. I think he is going to be a huge bargain on this team option for next year.
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                              • #60
                                Bumping this again. I think Yuta can be a rotation player on a good Raptors team in 2021/22. Can play either forward position and his energy is infectious. He is Only 26 so still improving.

                                Here he is putting in work this off season. Yuta Watanabe improves his shooting skills with family 👀 - YouTube
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