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  • LJ2 wrote: View Post
    I love OG and yeah he, Pascal and FVV can play some hella good defence when they're out there together, but I could see them trading him. If there's one thing Raps have had success with in free agency and drafting is finding defenders. Ibaka, Gadol and even Carroll who by reputation was a great 3&D player. Add to that their ability to draft guys like Delon, Norm, Pascal, FVV, Flynn, etc....just seems like OG as a defender is a bit easier to replace. Where this team has struggled is attracting in free agency and drafting pure scorer types that can do it in this system. There's more of a premium on those types of players.
    I think OG is a transcendent defender who can anchor the best defence in the league given the right personnel surrounding him. Why would you move off of a guy who can do that while developing an off the dribble game on the other end? He's already a very good shooter as well.

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    • planetmars wrote: View Post

      I'd rather have Okongwu
      Over Reddish? Reddish imo has a chance to be as good as Brown. He'll never reach his potential in ATL playing behind Trae, Hunter and Collins.
      Mamba Mentality

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      • Maury wrote: View Post

        I think OG is a transcendent defender who can anchor the best defence in the league given the right personnel surrounding him. Why would you move off of a guy who can do that while developing an off the dribble game on the other end? He's already a very good shooter as well.
        For the same reasons I mentioned in my post. Raps have exhibited the ability to trade for and draft defensive players. Meaning OG can be more easily replaced with a reasonable facsimile. Where this organization has struggled is finding the Kawhi type of player that can score at the highest levels.

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        • The Great One wrote: View Post
          The guy that I want to see them trade is Siakam. Anyone still want to argue with me that he's the 5th best player on the team? You know what I think of the guy. The guy has ZERO competitive fire in him. Guy was a complete non factor in ALL 7 games against the Celtics. Got suspended earlier in the season and came back and was a complete no show. Does this guy have any pride?

          And oh, do we even have to talk about how he constantly disappears in the 4th/in the clutch?

          As for this whole Nurse/Siakam thing. Siakam should be grateful that Nurse keeps giving the ball to him in a potential game winning shot scenario because if i'm coaching this team he'd be the 5th option. It's not Nurse's fault that Siakam keeps embarassing himself. Shooting a fallaway shot over RUDY GOBERT in the clutch when you're up 3? how dumb is this guy?







          It was Kawhi's presence in the team that made Pascal competitive and now that he's gone even the ultra competitive KLow can't egg him on.
          Dude's soft and I hope his attitudes won't rub off on OG.

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          • LJ2 wrote: View Post

            For the same reasons I mentioned in my post. Raps have exhibited the ability to trade for and draft defensive players. Meaning OG can be more easily replaced with a reasonable facsimile. Where this organization has struggled is finding the Kawhi type of player that can score at the highest levels.
            But my point is that OG isn't just another defender. I'm comparing his defence to a guy like Lillard's offence. You don't trade that just because you can. Of course you can. But his skill set is so broad and his impact so extreme that I just think you have to try and find value elsewhere because he pairs perfectly with an offensive option. I wouldn't be saying this about a guy like Thybulle or Marcus Smart. OG's defence is 1st team all-nba IMO and he's a top 3 defender in the league behind Simmons and... someone else maybe?

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            • Could see a scenario where Masai adds Thybulle and Myles Turner in trades.
              FVV/Thybulle/OG/Siakam/Turner are all potential contenders for 1st team all defence. Still need an alpha obviously but we will get there.

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              • Rudy Bargnani wrote: View Post
                Could see a scenario where Masai adds Thybulle and Myles Turner in trades.
                FVV/Thybulle/OG/Siakam/Turner are all potential contenders for 1st team all defence. Still need an alpha obviously but we will get there.
                Sounds good to me! As long as we can keep losing along the way. Would rather not make the playoffs at this point. That team is good enough to win a first-round upset quite easily IMO.

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                • Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
                  Waiting to see what happens between now and the trade deadline is like Christmas Eve this year.
                  Lots of anticipation to see what actually falls out .

                  Do we see an "Embrace The One Year Tank" strategy as we wave goodbye to the most successful edition the franchise has ever seen and likely a couple of the guys who made that happen. It was a great run. Time to retool and start the climb back.
                  or,
                  Out of left field Ujiri finds a cheap solution at the 5 and magically finds an impact wing player and lets the show play out.

                  Tick Tock.

                  Or option 3
                  Masai does nothing and we middling-suk .... I'm hoping option 1 is more likely

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                  • Maury wrote: View Post

                    But my point is that OG isn't just another defender. I'm comparing his defence to a guy like Lillard's offence. You don't trade that just because you can. Of course you can. But his skill set is so broad and his impact so extreme that I just think you have to try and find value elsewhere because he pairs perfectly with an offensive option. I wouldn't be saying this about a guy like Thybulle or Marcus Smart. OG's defence is 1st team all-nba IMO and he's a top 3 defender in the league behind Simmons and... someone else maybe?
                    Fair enough.

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                    • https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article...ll-sell-terms/

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                      • Honestly Riley vs Masai is some godfather level game of chicken, hilarious if they're really seeing who will blink over Herro.

                        But also remember so many major Masai moves were unexpected or underreported. Maybe there's too much noise around a possible Miami deal.
                        "We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard

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                        • I feel like the most likely scenario is that we will end up doing nothing, the team sneaks into the playoffs and loses in the first or second round. Lowry leaves for nothing in the off-season, we draft somebody no one has heard of, and we overpay Norm.

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                          • golden wrote: View Post
                            I feel like the most likely scenario is that we will end up doing nothing, the team sneaks into the playoffs and loses in the first or second round. Lowry leaves for nothing in the off-season, we draft somebody no one has heard of, and we overpay Norm.
                            Who needs Tyler Herro when you can draft the Brazilian Tyler Herro.

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                            • golden wrote: View Post
                              I feel like the most likely scenario is that we will end up doing nothing, the team sneaks into the playoffs and loses in the first or second round. Lowry leaves for nothing in the off-season, we draft somebody no one has heard of, and we overpay Norm.
                              You've just described a Timberwolves fans wet dream. Actually that applies to quite a few different teams fans.

                              I get it though, not easy driving a Lambo when you're use to getting driven around

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                              • golden wrote: View Post
                                I feel like the most likely scenario is that we will end up doing nothing, the team sneaks into the playoffs and loses in the first or second round. Lowry leaves for nothing in the off-season, we draft somebody no one has heard of, and we overpay Norm.
                                Unfortunately you can't get closer to the truth than that.

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