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G__Deane wrote: View Post
I don't see Thomas' D being that horrid actually. He absolutely should be getting 10 mins off the bench or at least be brought in when our offence stagnates as he can drop you a quick 2 for 3 right away.
The other thing with Thomas people often ignore is that he has enough gravity to force changes in opposing defensive schemes even if he doesn't score, which opens up the game for our wings, particularly Pascal. He's one of the most accurate shooters in the league, and moves a ton off ball, so an opponent can't sit in a zone defence too long with him on the floor. Even if he doesn't touch the ball, there's a guy chasing him around all over, completely unable to help defend anyone. That often creates enough chaos/strain on the opposing D to facilitate the game for our other guys.
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inthepaint wrote: View Post
Yep. Small samples overall but Drtg for them is about the same (Thomas actually 1pt better as of now). The other good defensive metric is D-PIPM. I don't know where to find that online anymore, but I'd say it's probably not that big of a difference, and even if is, probably doesn't make up for the vast difference in offensive impact Thomas has over Flynn.
The other thing with Thomas people often ignore is that he has enough gravity to force changes in opposing defensive schemes even if he doesn't score, which opens up the game for our wings, particularly Pascal. He's one of the most accurate shooters in the league, and moves a ton off ball, so an opponent can't sit in a zone defence too long with him on the floor. Even if he doesn't touch the ball, there's a guy chasing him around all over, completely unable to help defend anyone. That often creates enough chaos/strain on the opposing D to facilitate the game for our other guys.
Flynn has a +2 net rating on the season, so is not losing his minutes on aggregate, which is very good for a rookie. 106 ORTG and 104 DRTG.
Thomas has a -8 net rating on the season. 100 ORTG and 108 DRTG.
Now, both players, Thomas especially, have too small a sample to be making any real decisions on them.
But I would certainly rather see Flynn play and develop than Thomas play. Now, whether Thomas should play over a guy like Davis, who mostly brings shooting (though his rebounding can help sometimes) and whose defence is very suspect, is another question. But Davis as ever seems to consistently win his minutes even with some lacklustre defensive effort and focus this year, so hard to sit him. Or Stan, in some situations (if Stan is being used in a lineup where he's a wing or guard I would prefer Thomas, but obviously the hole right now is at the 4/5, so Stan eating those minutes is very helpful).
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