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The 2021 Season from Hell - Do The Raps Embrace the One Year Tank or is there a Lazurus Like Change and They Make the Playoffs - Vote Now !!

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  • #16
    S.R. wrote: View Post
    It's probably a bit of a placebo at this point as well. They're in their heads right now. Hopefully, they can get to the end of this season without any significant damage to their confidence. These guys are tough though, and they'll want to prove this year was just a blip for them, so I'm fairly confident next year they'll be really good if they're back in Toronto.

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    • #17
      Maury wrote: View Post

      It's probably a bit of a placebo at this point as well. They're in their heads right now. Hopefully, they can get to the end of this season without any significant damage to their confidence. These guys are tough though, and they'll want to prove this year was just a blip for them, so I'm fairly confident next year they'll be really good if they're back in Toronto.
      Agreed. All that OG/Fred/Siakam need are 3 things:

      1. Play back home in front of fans again

      2. A young, all-star level player to play with them and Trent (which we'll hopefully get on this draft). They're not stars and won't take a crap roster to the playoffs/contention (not even Lebron could), but they're all above average 2-way nba starters under 30, with tons of playoff experience and a championship together 2 years ago. That's not gonna just vanish.

      3. The understanding (even if implicit) that this season is done for, due to a multitude of reasons that go way beyond their individual play, and therefore the focus should be honing their individual/collective skills rather than winning games. Hard for a pro athlete to accept this, but if they have this understanding, their head will be in peace and hungry for next season.
      Last edited by inthepaint; Fri Apr 2, 2021, 02:11 AM.
      2019 NBA Champions. Glad to have doubted the doubters.

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      • #18
        Team had issues (no good centers) but was playing well and had beat Milwaukee back to back, Philly and then covid hit. Covid and playing in Florida is best reason to wrap this season up. Rotate resting guys and keep giving reps to OG as he assumes a bigger load, Flynn etc.

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        • #19
          A little disappointed we didnt get a C after losing norm, td and thomas. We were beating good teams without one a couple months ago. The sky would have been the limit with a good C

          so ya go for the tank now. Fred/Trent/OG/Siakam and a new C will be good back home. Just not sure how good with the depleted bench. We have utility guys 6-10 ie stanley, bembry, watson, watanabe that wont cut it. Need a cpl bench guys that can score a dozen along with Bouch. Hood looks good hopefully he can help

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          • #20
            https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article...ptors-tanking/

            TORONTO – Nick Nurse doesn’t want to hear anything to do with the “T” word.

            Despite the fact his team sports just a 19-30 record with the seventh-best shot at the No. 1 overall pick in what looks like a loaded draft near the top this year, the Toronto Raptors head coach isn’t a great fan of the concept of tanking.

            “Yeah, I don't like it,” Nurse said after his team practiced late Sunday afternoon. “I don't like talking about it, I don't like thinking about it and I don't like that it goes on.”

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            • #21
              G__Deane wrote: View Post
              https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article...ptors-tanking/

              TORONTO – Nick Nurse doesn’t want to hear anything to do with the “T” word.

              Despite the fact his team sports just a 19-30 record with the seventh-best shot at the No. 1 overall pick in what looks like a loaded draft near the top this year, the Toronto Raptors head coach isn’t a great fan of the concept of tanking.

              “Yeah, I don't like it,” Nurse said after his team practiced late Sunday afternoon. “I don't like talking about it, I don't like thinking about it and I don't like that it goes on.”
              In general, front offices are the ones tanking, not coaches or the players, but either way no one is going to admit to tanking or like tanking. The Raptors situation is different than just tanking, a lot of factors go into why its been a shit season.

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              • #22
                Players and coaches say that shit but then they all smiling when they are on lottery

                Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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                • #23
                  G__Deane wrote: View Post
                  https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article...ptors-tanking/

                  TORONTO – Nick Nurse doesn’t want to hear anything to do with the “T” word.

                  Despite the fact his team sports just a 19-30 record with the seventh-best shot at the No. 1 overall pick in what looks like a loaded draft near the top this year, the Toronto Raptors head coach isn’t a great fan of the concept of tanking.

                  “Yeah, I don't like it,” Nurse said after his team practiced late Sunday afternoon. “I don't like talking about it, I don't like thinking about it and I don't like that it goes on.”
                  Says the guy who plays Stanley Johnson, Baynes and Bembry together, with a dash of Yuta & McCaw. Nurse could be in on the heist.

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                  • #24
                    golden wrote: View Post

                    Says the guy who plays Stanley Johnson, Baynes and Bembry together, with a dash of Yuta & McCaw. Nurse could be in on the heist.
                    Nurse is all smiles underneath, he's got a Championship, a COY and a new contract....imagine this was his contract year, he'd be pizzed

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                    • #25
                      golden wrote: View Post

                      Says the guy who plays Stanley Johnson, Baynes and Bembry together, with a dash of Yuta & McCaw. Nurse could be in on the heist.
                      It's kind of hard to tell whether that sort of lineup is Nurse being in on the heist or Nurse just being Nurse.

                      The biggest threat to the soft tank which the front office is leaning into isn't Nurse, by the way. It's that two hour talk about basketball on the plane between OG and GT Jr that was reported shortly after the trade. Having those two players on the same page, especially defensively, is going to raise the performance level of the rest of the team enough that having any one of our bigger names out (Kyle, Pascal, Fred) isn't going to be enough tank effectively against all but the league's heavy hitters, and even having two of them out is probably not going to consistently be enough against tank brigade teams or borderline playoff teams with injuries.

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                      • #26
                        G__Deane wrote: View Post

                        Nurse is all smiles underneath, he's got a Championship, a COY and a new contract....imagine this was his contract year, he'd be pizzed
                        maybe all smiles after the GS win but he's looked pretty pizzed to me much of this season, with some pretty bad body language. i noticed he walked straight off the floor against portland while every other member of the organization sought norm out for offer well wishes, while portland did the same with trent.

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                        • #27
                          TheWaterboy wrote: View Post

                          It's kind of hard to tell whether that sort of lineup is Nurse being in on the heist or Nurse just being Nurse.
                          think that's just nurse seeking five player lineups that play defense

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                          • #28
                            The problem is when it comes 2 tank season..could be more than one year, they'll be staying in Tampa Bay following year, Canadian Government is not letting up on restrictions, they are making it worse, they could be in Tampa another year 😔
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                            My kitchen is always open to friends"

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                            • #29
                              Dr Hannibal Lecter wrote: View Post
                              The problem is when it comes 2 tank season..could be more than one year, they'll be staying in Tampa Bay following year, Canadian Government is not letting up on restrictions, they are making it worse, they could be in Tampa another year 😔
                              Why can't we let the Americans in? Most of the US will be vaccinated by the end of the summer. If anything, they need to be afraid of us Canadians. Our government was beating their chest last year, so proud to have "secured" among the highest advance vaccine purchases per capita of any country. But here we are, actually getting among the fewest. Trudeau needs a lesson on negotiating "terms".

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                              • #30
                                The Tampa tank fell in to our lap. Embrace it.

                                Hopefully we can S&T Lowry into a good home.

                                Hopefully we can retain Trent.

                                Hopefully we can somehow acquire Turner from Indiana (maybe in a 3 team deal with Lowry's S&T, although I don't even know if that's allowed)

                                We should have a high draft pick. Hopefully the ping pong balls fall in our favour and we can get Green or Suggs.

                                That would give us pretty solid Defensive Starting Lineup

                                FVV
                                Trent
                                OG
                                Siakam
                                Turner

                                High draft pick rookie coming off the bench.

                                I'm hopeful to play in Canada again (Thanksgivings is my mental date for normalcy to begin. Most of us should be fully vaccinated by then)

                                I'm hopeful we can retain Masai.

                                I'm hopeful for the future.

                                I was a fan during the Babcock days. We are in much, MUCH better shape now.

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