Everything 2021-22 Free Agency / Off-Season

[Primer]

No way Barnes plays C. He's a rookie and he's never played that position before. Why would they put him in that position? You already said they have a lot of bigs(Precious, Boucher, Freddie, Birch). Imagine him against other teams C's? not a good idea. I'm pretty sure he's going to play PG/point forward for this team.

Barnes had never played PG until he got to FSU, so I wouldn't say he can't play C just because he didn't last season. He was a big man in high school and for team USA.

[Jclaw]

Also.....can anybody who is complaining that aren't using the cap room we planned for this year let me know who they wanted to sign? It's not the Raps fault that other players signed extensions. Lowry was the best free agent available. Did you want to sign him for 3x30? I'm not sure Holmes is the answer to this question.

[saints91]

If the S&T is for Dragic, Precious, and a 2nd, we basically just helped out Miami. If it's a 1st round pick coming back, then it's worth taking on Dragic. We handcuffed ourselves from adding talent that would fit with our timeline and core with this trade, and should be compensated properly.

[SkywalkerAC]

lol what the fuck is Drummond doing? Following in Boogie's footsteps I guess.

[SkywalkerAC]

If the S&T is for Dragic, Precious, and a 2nd, we basically just helped out Miami. If it's a 1st round pick coming back, then it's worth taking on Dragic. We handcuffed ourselves from adding talent that would fit with our timeline and core with this trade, and should be compensated properly.

Any return on a sign and trade is pretty good - this is more than what we got for Bosh. Masai and co probably weren't too keen on this free agent crop, or knew they could do enough damage with the MLE. That said, there's still time to find another home for Dragic.

[saints91]

Any return on a sign and trade is pretty good - this is more than what we got for Bosh. Masai and co probably weren't too keen on this free agent crop, or knew they could do enough damage with the MLE. That said, there's still time to find another home for Dragic.

To me it's not worth helping Miami get better. We actually had leverage in this deal.... so no, it's not pretty good.

[TrueTorontoFan]

lol what the fuck is Drummond doing? Following in Boogie's footsteps I guess.

who else is going to pay him more than minimum money... he sucked we knew he sucked... he still sucks

[golden]

I predicted this at the beginning of last season. First half has already come true.... scary.

And Lowry will end up in Miami.... with Masai.

[Rudy Bargnani]

Also.....can anybody who is complaining that aren't using the cap room we planned for this year let me know who they wanted to sign? It's not the Raps fault that other players signed extensions. Lowry was the best free agent available. Did you want to sign him for 3x30? I'm not sure Holmes is the answer to this question.

I mean if the bar is 35 year old Goran Dragic who won’t be on the team in a year? John Collins, Lauri Markenan, Lonzo Ball, Spencer Dinwiddie or Richaun Holmes would all be improvements in my view.
Anyway it’s only a day maybe another move in pending.

[TrueTorontoFan]

My thoughts on the sign and trade:


If its a first that is SOLID. If its more than a 2nd (two seconds) ... still pretty happy because you can use those seconds in deals later on or to move up if necessary especially if the seconds are later on in the life of Jimmy's deal. A second in 2027 is not necessarily a bad second. Getting Precious is also solid. VERY solid. I am happy with it. I am not jumping for joy but he didn't walk for nothing to Dallas. Which we kind of knew because he wanted to get paid and go to a good situation. I think Kyle also won't back down from the money so it is really still on miami to figure it out. Worst case we have Dragic. I think thats fine. He is playing well and we can always flip him later. It also maintains our capspace in some sort of way moving forward for next year. Not that we would have big capspace.


I am happy with the return and Dragic can net us something because of how much his salary is.

I am content with Markkenen, I want Turner.

Dragic and Boucer is better than Boucher and Bayens as a trade platter.

[planetmars]

To me it's not worth helping Miami get better. We actually had leverage in this deal.... so no, it's not pretty good.

I've been one of the more pessimistic guys in this forum lately but I think we have to let the off season play out a bit before we determine if the trade was a bad one.

If we end up having to keep Dragic, and we use our MLE on someone like Birch and call it a day, it will be a bad look on the franchise. But if they are able to flip Dragic for someone that fits our teams needs both in the short term and long term, then it will work itself out.

For now there have been no trades made other than sign and trades. Guys like Kawhi, DeMar, Collins and Markkanen are still free agents. Simmons is still a 6er. Some patience can be a good thing. Portland still has to make Lillard happy (and bringing back Norm won't be enough).

Atlanta was patient last off season and got Bogdanovic at the end of it.

Overall this off season has been pretty boring.. not just for Raptor fans, but for most fans I imagine.

[DanH]

Don't cancel your Holmes jersey orders yet..

It would be very Kangz to have offered and agreed to a deal they can't legally offer.

[saints91]

I've been one of the more pessimistic guys in this forum lately but I think we have to let the off season play out a bit before we determine if the trade was a bad one.

If we end up having to keep Dragic, and we use our MLE on someone like Birch and call it a day, it will be a bad look on the franchise. But if they are able to flip Dragic for someone that fits our teams needs both in the short term and long term, then it will work itself out.

For now there have been no trades made other than sign and trades. Guys like Kawhi, DeMar, Collins and Markkanen are still free agents. Simmons is still a 6er. Some patience can be a good thing. Portland still has to make Lillard happy (and bringing back Norm won't be enough).

Atlanta was patient last off season and got Bogdanovic at the end of it.

Overall this off season has been pretty boring.. not just for Raptor fans, but for most fans I imagine.

I agree, if Dragic can be flipped for something actually helps us, and could be a player going forward, then the deal is good. If we have to take Miami's salary dump (I know Dragic is a good player, but we wouldn't be rushing to sign him either), then I'm not enthused. The third team should've been figured out before hand... maybe Lowry's post was rushed, and now teams are trying to take advantage of it.

[saints91]

It would be very Kangz to have offered and agreed to a deal they can't legally offer.

Hield and Bagley for Dragic, Boucher? Should open some room for Holmes

[saints91]

oh and maybe Miami's 2nd round pick, because it's so great