Everything 2021-22 Free Agency / Off-Season

[DanH]

No. Goran Dragic is 35 and doesn’t fit with the timeline of the core. I’d like to see the new players be one of the young available players that can help the team win.

Like Achiuwa?

[DanH]

I agree, if Dragic can be flipped for something actually helps us, and could be a player going forward, then the deal is good. If we have to take Miami's salary dump (I know Dragic is a good player, but we wouldn't be rushing to sign him either), then I'm not enthused. The third team should've been figured out before hand... maybe Lowry's post was rushed, and now teams are trying to take advantage of it.

There's a chance they agreed to the bones of the deal, with some agreement in place where if the Raps could find a third team for Dragic then great, and if not, Miami would kick in some assets to cushion the blow for the Raps losing their cap room.

Or maybe not. I'm finding it hard to get too worked up about the return until we actually know how this shakes out. So many variables...

[planetmars]

I agree, if Dragic can be flipped for something actually helps us, and could be a player going forward, then the deal is good. If we have to take Miami's salary dump (I know Dragic is a good player, but we wouldn't be rushing to sign him either), then I'm not enthused. The third team should've been figured out before hand... maybe Lowry's post was rushed, and now teams are trying to take advantage of it.

Deals can't actually be put to paper until Friday. So maybe that's the natural hold up, and we actually have a place to trade Dragic too but can't be announced yet. But yes, this is me hoping that's the case, and is not actually the case.

Another potential scenario is that we really liked Achiuwa and were willing to trade for him if it meant taking Dragic's contract too, even if it caused some issues in free agency. And we may not have cared if we missed out on some notable free agents if it meant we would lose out on Achiuwa.

[saints91]

Like Achiuwa?

Achiuwa doesn't move the needle for having to surrender abilities to sign free agents.

[saints91]

There's a chance they agreed to the bones of the deal, with some agreement in place where if the Raps could find a third team for Dragic then great, and if not, Miami would kick in some assets to cushion the blow for the Raps losing their cap room.

Or maybe not. I'm finding it hard to get too worked up about the return until we actually know how this shakes out. So many variables...

That's true, I'll be patient and wait it out.

[DanH]

Achiuwa doesn't move the needle for having to surrender abilities to sign free agents.

Depends on the free agent right? I guess the only real comparison is Achiuwa versus Holmes (any RFA could have been matched on, and based on the ones signed so far, would have been, or wanted to be somewhere else like Ball going to Chicago). I think from a team building perspective I prefer Achiuwa to Holmes. But in terms of winning games this year, the opposite is probably true.

[Jclaw]

I mean if the bar is 35 year old Goran Dragic who won’t be on the team in a year? John Collins, Lauri Markenan, Lonzo Ball, Spencer Dinwiddie or Richaun Holmes would all be improvements in my view.
Anyway it’s only a day maybe another move in pending.

Restricted free agents so not quite as simple. The list gets pretty small after that

[TrueTorontoFan]

zingis? but we get picks?

[TrueTorontoFan]

zingis? but we get picks?

I would hope not obviously but I don't know... I just want to get some kind of indication of what direction we are moving in.

[nba_4_life]

zingis? but we get picks?

Im good on getting porsingis on the raptors. Also will be happy with bagley and heild as well

[007]

Robin Lopez gets to go live in Disneyworld good for him - I believe he already has a place there? Lol

Also things being this quiet on the DeMar front outside of general interest report is odd

[bertarapsfan]

Yea some of the most interesting big names that are available are still out there.. Demar, Collins, Markkaean.
Then the guys who are rumored to be traded-Simmons, Heild, Zinger, bagley
Still think there is some shit to get figured out and the fact that our deal hasn't been announced makes it seem like we are involved with one of these players.

[planetmars]

Just looking at some of the available free agents left:
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/available/

Long list of guys. Not much cap space to go around either. I think the Spurs still have a lot of money. OKC should as well. Knicks blew their wad. Dallas is pretty much done once they bring back THJR.

So a lot of these guys will be had for the MLE or BAE.

I always liked Willy Hernangomez as a bench big. Could bring back Biyombo if we're desperate. Or Boss Davis if we need rebounding help. Probably get anyone of those guys for vet minimum if we offer playing time.

[TrueTorontoFan]

Yea some of the most interesting big names that are available are still out there.. Demar, Collins, Markkaean.
Then the guys who are rumored to be traded-Simmons, Heild, Zinger, bagley
Still think there is some shit to get figured out and the fact that our deal hasn't been announced makes it seem like we are involved with one of these players.

demar to chicago? stein reported that its a possibility thats the only team with space... via sign and trade.... with markkenen... which takes two of those guys off the table ... so really its only Collins left.

[TrueTorontoFan]

Im good on getting porsingis on the raptors. Also will be happy with bagley and heild as well

Bagley would be nice. I put hield out on reddit and people attacked..