Everything 2021-22 Free Agency / Off-Season

[Eric Montross 00]

I remember it was the "Lowry heading to Miami" all over the social media ahead of the official signing day, so it has nothing to do with the Raptors

[saints91]

There’s a good chance Miami and the Raptors were in trade talks before the opening of free agency. They wouldn’t have picked up Dragic’s option a day before the opening of free agency without knowing a sign and trade was available.

[Primer]

0% chance this trade gets voided. The Bogdan trade didn't get vetoed by the NBA, it fell through on it's own, then the NBA investigated after the fact and stripped Milwaukee of a 2nd round pick for contacting Bogdan before free agency started.

Nothing will happen to Toronto here. Miami could lose a draft pick.

[Primer]

What podcast? I don't see it

https://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2021...-w-henry-ward/

Really good listen if you're interested in how this roster can function offensively and defensively. We're trying something that hasn't been done at the NBA level yet but if done correctly could dominate.

[GLF]

https://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2021...-w-henry-ward/

Thanks!

[golden]

I'm honestly impressed that you'd remember my affinity for him coming out of Wisc.

I have an incredible capacity for remembering randomly useless and trivial bits of information. lol.

[GLF]

https://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2021...-w-henry-ward/

Really good listen if you're interested in how this roster can function offensively and defensively. We're trying something that hasn't been done at the NBA level yet but if done correctly could dominate.

And that's technically Masai keeping his word again. He's said he doesn't want to do what everyone else in the league is doing. He wants to be innovative and set trends. He's not afraid to take risk and possibly fail. It's how you grow and get better. But as you said if it hits it's going to be amazing and that's the risk Masai is willing to take.

[DanH]

The Bogdanovic deal was not rescinded by the NBA. The teams abandoned it knowing the NBA would hand down much harsher punishments if they didn't, once it went public.

In this case the deal is done. The NBA will not rescind the deals, that's very extreme and they are allowed to do it but they won't want the mess.

In theory, the NBA can take draft picks and void them or give them to the aggrieved team. Not sure what team would be aggrieved here. I'd bet the team that complained was the Pelicans, so maybe them. Maybe us, being the home team.

And the Heat have plenty of draft picks the league can take. They aren't allowed to trade back to back picks, but the NBA can take whatever they like. So their 2022 first, for example.

There are also pretty big fines that can be handed out.

[TrueTorontoFan]

The Bogdanovic deal was not rescinded by the NBA. The teams abandoned it knowing the NBA would hand down much harsher punishments if they didn't, once it went public.

In this case the deal is done. The NBA will not rescind the deals, that's very extreme and they are allowed to do it but they won't want the mess.

In theory, the NBA can take draft picks and void them or give them to the aggrieved team. Not sure what team would be aggrieved here. I'd bet the team that complained was the Pelicans, so maybe them. Maybe us, being the home team.

And the Heat have plenty of draft picks the league can take. They aren't allowed to trade back to back picks, but the NBA can take whatever they like. So their 2022 first, for example.

There are also pretty big fines that can be handed out.

where would the pick go?

[GOLDBLUM]

[DanH]

where would the pick go?

My third paragraph there was talking about that. Basically wherever the league decides it goes. It can disappear in a puff of smoke, or be given to another team.

[bertarapsfan]

The punishment is the heat organization has to pay for the Lowry statue outside the ACC

[GOLDBLUM]

Pascal $33,003,936
Fred VV $19,675,926
Dragic $19,440,000
GTJ $16,666,667
OG $16,071,429
Scottie $7,280,520
Boucher $7,020,000
Khem $6,349,206
Precious $2,711,280
Malachi $2,048,040
Yuta $1,762,796
Freddie G $1,517,981

Total: $133,547,781. Which leaves us $3,052,219 in below-tax space.

Minimum NBA salary this year is $925K. Two-way contracts don't count against the cap or tax, so if we want a 14-man roster, we could sign one of our second-rounders to a minimum deal, give two-way deals to the other second-rounder and one of Ishmail or Justin Champagnie, and then have $2,127,219 left over for a final deal. (This would give us the ability to sign a player with more experience if we wanted it.)

Ok... so.

Now that it appears Wainright is taking a roster-spot (That's correct, yes? ... I'm assuming the announcement of his signing last night is no longer just a partial guarantee, though I suppose I could be wrong.)
And Champagnie signed officially last night as one of the two ways...

So now we give one of the second rounders a two-way. And the other second rounder... a minimum contract?

(Dalano's gonna need more time to adjust than Johnson, I'm guessing... does that mean he gets the two-way and Johnson gets the full minimum contract? Is there any other option there? Obviously they're not gonna wanna let them walk. I'm sure Johnson would benefit from a ton of 905 time as well. He can obviously still go there as a minimum, and just come up whenever they want him to, yes?)

So many questions, lol --- save me magoon, DanH, planetmars, etc.

That would put our roster at 14 plus the two two-ways...

Which could be the final roster or they could add one more player to that if salary allows... (That's what you're suggesting, magoon?)

Interesting that they made these calls on Wainright/Champagnie before Summer League games have happened, without getting to see the others in game. Must feel like a very sure thing for management (as I suspected it might.) ..... unless, of course, my whole premise is mistaken.

[Bendit]

Re this rule of teams not "contacting" f/a players before stated date/time ... I notice that neither player nor agent ... a significant 3rd wheel in the rule-breaking gets nicked. Has this happened? Shouldn't it? This might be the best deterrent to maintain "order".

[DanH]

Ok... so.

Now that it appears Wainright is taking a roster-spot (That's correct, yes? ... I'm assuming the announcement of his signing last night is no longer just a partial guarantee, though I suppose I could be wrong.)
And Champagnie signed officially last night as one of the two ways...

So now we give one of the second rounders a two-way. And the other second rounder... a minimum contract?

(Dalano's gonna need more time to adjust than Johnson, I'm guessing... does that mean he gets the two-way and Johnson gets the full minimum contract? Is there any other option there? Obviously they're not gonna wanna let them walk. I'm sure Johnson would benefit from a ton of 905 time as well. He can obviously still go there as a minimum, and just come up whenever they want him to, yes?)

So many questions, lol --- save me magoon, DanH, planetmars, etc.

That would put our roster at 14 plus the two two-ways...

Which could be the final roster or they could add one more player to that if salary allows... (That's what you're suggesting, magoon?)

Interesting that they made these calls on Wainright/Champagnie before Summer League games have happened, without getting to see the others in game. Must feel like a very sure thing for management (as I suspected it might.) ..... unless, of course, my whole premise is mistaken.

Nah, Wainwright is very much still a camp invite.

This could still wrap up a few different ways. The most likely being...

Both 2nd rounders signed to NBA minimum deals, another fringe player (or one of the camp invites if their guarantees are 50k or less) signed to a 2-way.

One 2nd rounder signed to an NBA deal, one to a 2-way, one of the camp invites makes the team.