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golden wrote: View Post
Serge had 17 points on only 10 shots. Not 17 shots. lol. That's one of the main reasons why we won that game. Memories indeed getting foggy.
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inthepaint wrote: View Post
Meh, that's the impression we sometimes get on defensive battles like that, but the shot attempts were pretty even between the 2 teams on that series (outside Kawhi):
Embiid - 18
Serge- 17
Butler- 14
Lowry- 13
Redick - 11
Siakam - 11
Harris - 9
Gasol - 8
Simmons - 5
Fred - 5
And that's typically what you'll get on a hard-fought playoff defensive battle on both sides, just 1 or 2 guys standing out while the others hold the fort on other critical areas of the game that go beyond volume shot-taking. Defensively, all of Siakam, Kyle and Gasol were massive on that series. That game 7 was a grind-out 90-90 till the last shot mainly for that reason. I've been very critical of Gasol post-wash, but on that series he handled Embiid beautifully. Siakam on offence wasn't taking a lot of shots but he was still putting a lot of pressure on the rim on both ends (averaged a series high 11 boards, tied with Embiid), attracting attention and allowing more space for Kawhi and Serge.
I didn't see anyone from the Sixers threatening to singlehandedly take over that game in OT. Butler was getting feisty at the end but all-in-all was shooting around 33% on that series, again, because of our defence. Philly fans can ponder 'what could have been' all they want (I would too if I was on the losing end), but the reality is it's far from a given they'd just walk away with a road game 7 OT victory, that's historically extremely hard to do, especially vs a grounded 2-way team full of vets like that Raptors team.
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LJ2 wrote: View Post
That's certainly one perspective and I don't think it's an incorrect one necessarily but we all forget how quickly that team was slapped together. First year playing with Kawhi and he missed a big chunk of the regular season games and Gasol, a later than mid season acquisition. That's 40% of the starting unit with little to no chemistry with with the rest of the guys. It's ridiculous they won it all and sad at the same time because they really could have become a special team if they stayed together and built some chemistry.
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golden wrote: View Post
Funny you mention Gasol, Lowry and Siakam because they were deathly afraid to shoot. The only Raptor helping Kawhi in game 7 was Ibaka. If Kawhi missed that shot, then it felt like the Sixers had more momentum heading into OT.
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golden wrote: View Post
Funny you mention Gasol, Lowry and Siakam because they were deathly afraid to shoot. The only Raptor helping Kawhi in game 7 was Ibaka. If Kawhi missed that shot, then it felt like the Sixers had more momentum heading into OT.
Embiid - 18
Serge- 17
Butler- 14
Lowry- 13
Redick - 11
Siakam - 11
Harris - 9
Gasol - 8
Simmons - 5
Fred - 5
And that's typically what you'll get on a hard-fought playoff defensive battle on both sides, just 1 or 2 guys standing out while the others hold the fort on other critical areas of the game that go beyond volume shot-taking. Defensively, all of Siakam, Kyle and Gasol were massive on that series. That game 7 was a grind-out 90-90 till the last shot mainly for that reason. I've been very critical of Gasol post-wash, but on that series he handled Embiid beautifully. Siakam on offence wasn't taking a lot of shots but he was still putting a lot of pressure on the rim on both ends (averaged a series high 11 boards, tied with Embiid), attracting attention and allowing more space for Kawhi and Serge.
I didn't see anyone from the Sixers threatening to singlehandedly take over that game in OT. Butler was getting feisty at the end but all-in-all was shooting around 33% on that series, again, because of our defence. Philly fans can ponder 'what could have been' all they want (I would too if I was on the losing end), but the reality is it's far from a given they'd just walk away with a road game 7 OT victory, that's historically extremely hard to do, especially vs a grounded 2-way team full of vets like that Raptors team.Last edited by inthepaint; Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:12 PM.
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golden wrote: View Post
Funny you mention Gasol, Lowry and Siakam because they were deathly afraid to shoot. The only Raptor helping Kawhi in game 7 was Ibaka. If Kawhi missed that shot, then it felt like the Sixers had more momentum heading into OT.
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golden wrote: View Post
Funny you mention Gasol, Lowry and Siakam because they were deathly afraid to shoot. The only Raptor helping Kawhi in game 7 was Ibaka. If Kawhi missed that shot, then it felt like the Sixers had more momentum heading into OT.
Ibaka was the unsung hero of the game. THAT MAN WENT OFF along with Kawhi. Everyone else played scared and thus it became a weird rock fight of a game. In fact out of all the games in the series outside of it being a game 7 situation. It was my least favorite game beyond "the shot".
Underrated in all of this is two things. First of all, I am curious what would have changed if OG was back and in the line up. I think it would have made a significant difference. Some of our best line ups were with him and Kawhi on the floor at the same time, along with Siakam. Siakam played decently in the series but that game was literally a rock fight.
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inthepaint wrote: View Post
Underrated point right here that gets pushed under the carpet all the time. Most people musing about that game (on both sides) talk about it as if we were behind 1pt or something prior to that shot, and if it didn't go in Philly would be the champions right there. That game was TIED. If it bounced out they would still have to win a game 7 on the road in OT, with a relatively playoff green Embiid and non-shooting Simmons (vs a husky trio of Kawhi, good Gasol, hungry Lowry plus a breaking out Siakam). Huge "IF" for them, Butler or not.
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inthepaint wrote: View Post
Underrated point right here that gets pushed under the carpet all the time. Most people musing about that game (on both sides) talk about it as if we were behind 1pt or something prior to that shot, and if it didn't go in Philly would be the champions right there. That game was TIED. If it bounced out they would still have to win a game 7 on the road in OT, with a relatively playoff green Embiid and non-shooting Simmons (vs a husky trio of Kawhi, good Gasol, hungry Lowry plus a breaking out Siakam). Huge "IF" for them, Butler or not.
For everyone else we were the champs, end of story.
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planetmars wrote: View Post
Butler was key. But even if Kawhi's bouncer didn't go in, it was going to O/T. Tough to win on the road in O/T in the playoffs.
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The Great One wrote: View PostThis Ben Simmons stuff is crazy man. I'm lovin it though. The funniest part is how the media keeps saying "the Sixers were 7 bounce away from beating the eventual champs in 2019" without mentioning the most important part of that series for the Sixers. The Sixers had JIMMY BUTLER that year. He was their best player in that series and it ain't even close. That dude is now in Miami.
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This Ben Simmons stuff is crazy man. I'm lovin it though. The funniest part is how the media keeps saying "the Sixers were 7 bounce away from beating the eventual champs in 2019" without mentioning the most important part of that series for the Sixers. The Sixers had JIMMY BUTLER that year. He was their best player in that series and it ain't even close. That dude is now in Miami.
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GOLDBLUM wrote: View Post
Were they all on here? I knew Blake was. What were their monickers at the time?
Not sure if I need my Athletic subscription anymore. Blake is the best out there. Though, Eric really upped his game with his recent Scottie article…
Some day the Raps will hire me for their extensive gif department 🤞
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DanH wrote: View Post
Will Lou I believe posted in the forums under ddaylewis. Blake was on the front page, not sure he ever came into the forums.Last edited by golden; Thu Sep 30, 2021, 02:02 PM.
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