Everything 2021-22 Free Agency / Off-Season

[S.R.]

Will Lou has also left Yahoo. Wonder if these OG RR guys are going to do something together?

Raptors HQ also shutting down.

[MixxAOR]

Will Lou has also left Yahoo. Wonder if these OG RR guys are going to do something together?

https://twitter.com/BenStinar/status...94582449881088

[planetmars]

Yup, there goes my Athletic membership. Won't re-subscribe once it ends.

[TrueTorontoFan]

Will Lou has also left Yahoo. Wonder if these OG RR guys are going to do something together?

I feel like that might be on the horizon.

[bertarapsfan]

Maybe glass empty is the way to go. Another free agent gone

Will Lou has also left Yahoo. Wonder if these OG RR guys are going to do something together?

[Jclaw]

Maybe glass empty is the way to go. Another free agent gone

[Jclaw]

Well, I don't think this offseason has been particularly bad, but looking at the big picture, since the 2018 offseason this team has been throughly picked clean and there's been a massive net loss of talent.

Gone (6 rotation champions):
Kawhi Leonard
Kyle Lowry
Danny Green (inconsistent sure, but won another title since winning one here, as has harnessed on-court and/or trade value on each team he's been since)
Norman Powell
Serge Ibaka
Marc Gasol

In (not counting 3rd stringers and draftees):
Gary Trent
Precious Achiuwa
Goran Dragic (who doesn't want to be here)

No FRP's in or out. Some of it were circumstances and outside the FO'd control, but all-in-all I don't think there's another team coming close to this net loss of talent in this window of time.

That seems a bit glass half empty. Should we have traded Kawhi during our championship run to ensure he didn’t leave without us getting someone? Green won a ring as a hanger on almost in spite of his play. Norm for Trent. Ibaka has been injured and his team hasn’t gone anywhere. Gasol is a shell of his former self.
Also, left out of your “in” column are the second leading scorer from the finals (resigned) and a finals mvp candidate (said a bit tongue in cheek) (resigned).

It hasn’t been optimal but it’s not as bad as that list looks. In reality, the championship Raptors were like a comet of players brought together at just the right time to win.

[Yuri Gagarin]

As much as I hate Simmons I would be curious to see a Simmons/OG/Barnes/Pascal/Precious lineup

[saints91]

Espn's seemed more based on our pick than on the actual moves. if it's just free agency, I would give us a C so far... the draft is too hard to grade at this time.

[Hotshot]

Fuck ESPN, they've got their own agenda.

Prefer BR take better:

https://syndication-bleacherreport-c...www.google.com

Toronto Raptors: B

The end of the Lowry era seemed inevitable, so to even get Dragic and Achiuwa back in a sign-and-trade was better than nothing.

Dekker and Mykhailiuk bring some shooting to the second unit, and Birch played well enough as the starting center last year to earn a three-year, $20 million deal.

Passing on Gonzaga guard Jalen Suggs in favor of Barnes was a risky move, and we likely won't know if it was the correct move for years to come. Suggs seemed like the perfect replacement for Lowry, however, and now there's more pressure on Fred VanVleet as the primary ball-handler for the first time in his career.

The decision to flip Norman Powell for Trent at the deadline proved to be the right one, as Toronto was able to sign the 22-year-old to a three-year, $51.8 million deal.

[inthepaint]

Not that it means anything, but ESPN gave Toronto the second worse grades (D+) for our off-season moves. Only team lower was Cleveland.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...ery-team-stand

Well, I don't think this offseason has been particularly bad, but looking at the big picture, since the 2018 offseason this team has been throughly picked clean and there's been a massive net loss of talent.

Gone (6 rotation champions):
Kawhi Leonard
Kyle Lowry
Danny Green (inconsistent sure, but won another title since winning one here, as has harnessed on-court and/or trade value on each team he's been since)
Norman Powell
Serge Ibaka
Marc Gasol

In (not counting 3rd stringers and draftees):
Gary Trent
Precious Achiuwa
Goran Dragic (who doesn't want to be here)

No FRP's in or out. Some of it were circumstances and outside the FO'd control, but all-in-all I don't think there's another team coming close to this net loss of talent in this window of time.

[saints91]

Ahh back to being underdogs... I like it. I think this team will do shocking good this year.

[golden]

Not that it means anything, but ESPN gave Toronto the second worse grades (D+) for our off-season moves. Only team lower was Cleveland.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...ery-team-stand

Toronto Raptors: D+
Although I think the Raptors' odds of returning to the playoffs next season are underrated, that's because of the talent on hand and a return to Canada rather than their offseason moves. Toronto's decision to wait on a Lowry trade at the deadline landed 2020 first-round pick Precious Achiuwa from the Heat, but at the cost of taking on Goran Dragic at $19.4 million. We'll see whether the Raptors can get something of value for Dragic at the deadline.


Instead of using cap space, Toronto stayed over the cap and re-signed other free agents at big numbers. Restricted free agent Gary Trent Jr. got $52 million over three seasons and a player option that could see him hit unrestricted free agency at age 24, while the Raptors paid lavishly to bring back Khem Birch (three years, $20 million) after a strong post-buyout run. In the long term, deciding to take Scottie Barnes No. 4 overall ahead of Suggs might dominate our assessment of Toronto's offseason.

[TrueTorontoFan]

Yeah.. and it would get worse if you moved Fred and say Dragic for him (two shooters) for him:

Simmons/Flynn/Banton
Trent/Mykhailiuk
OG/Barnes
Siakam/Boucher/Watanabe
Birch/Achiuawa

Defense would be fire.. but we'd still be undersized at the 5, and we'd struggle to score, unless we can get a lot of dunks some how. Trent and OG better average over 40% from 3.

I think it would put too much pressure on OG and trent Not really a fan of this constant connection, but I get it you try and fish around and have discussions on players.

[planetmars]

the last part is key.... he needs a specific team. we would need to change alot of our direction. he could coexist with siakam but may render barnes useless.

Yeah.. and it would get worse if you moved Fred and say Dragic for him (two shooters) for him:

Simmons/Flynn/Banton
Trent/Mykhailiuk
OG/Barnes
Siakam/Boucher/Watanabe
Birch/Achiuawa

Defense would be fire.. but we'd still be undersized at the 5, and we'd struggle to score, unless we can get a lot of dunks some how. Trent and OG better average over 40% from 3.