Porzingis sucks. Don't want a center that doesn't want to play center.. and sucks at defense. We've seen that before and it didn't work that well.
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my main hesitancy in a trade for zinger would be health. ppl shat all over him for the playoff performance but nobody can look good next to doncic at that usage, he's the most ball dominant player ever. they need to rely less on doncic making every single play for them.
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chris wrote: View Postmy main hesitancy in a trade for zinger would be health. ppl shat all over him for the playoff performance but nobody can look good next to doncic at that usage, he's the most ball dominant player ever. they need to rely less on doncic making every single play for them.
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DanH wrote: View Post
Well, the Mavs tried playing him away from Luka in the playoffs to buoy the lineups where Luka had to rest and they couldn't try it very much because in the 31 minutes they tried, they lost by 29 points, while KP put up 14 points on 18 used possessions and managed 2 rebounds and 2 assists.
but i subscribe more to the steve kerr/phil jackson school of thought, the latter of whom won six titles coaching the GOAT only after he took the ball out of his hands to employ a system that empowered the rest of the team.
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DanH wrote: View Post
Well, the Mavs tried playing him away from Luka in the playoffs to buoy the lineups where Luka had to rest and they couldn't try it very much because in the 31 minutes they tried, they lost by 29 points, while KP put up 14 points on 18 used possessions and managed 2 rebounds and 2 assists.
PlanetMars equating Porzingis to Bargnani is fucking nonsense. So can't take his opinion seriously here.
With Zinger he is a bit overpaid and there is the injury history (overblown in my opinion) but those two things are the only reasons he may be available.
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Primer wrote: View Post
This was against the Clippers who may win it all, so a pretty tough team to take a tiny sample from. It makes a ton more sense to look at the regular season where he was pretty damn good by every regular and advanced metric.
PlanetMars equating Porzingis to Bargnani is fucking nonsense. So can't take his opinion seriously here.
With Zinger he is a bit overpaid and there is the injury history (overblown in my opinion) but those two things are the only reasons he may be available.
Porzingis is not Bargs. Bargs was one of the worst players ever to play a major role.
But Porzingis is also paid almost what Pascal is, and his best year is best compared to Siakam's down year in terms of overall production (slightly more efficient - though almost entirely from 3PT%, slightly more rebounds, slightly less scoring, as you'd expect from a C vs a PF) except with absolutely none of the playmaking (and he's seen barely any variation in AST% his entire 5 years, it's not a Luka thing). Already Pascal needs to bounce back a bit to be worth that contract (which he is quite capable of). I'm not sure I think Porzingis has a step up from his current production in him.
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Porzingis...NOOOOOOOOOO
Enough Said...His is trash, unmotivated garbage..we as raptor fans don't want this cancer on our team, so no Thanks.
I rather have 100 of Ibaka's with horrible back than Unicorn Bum..
Plz just stop with this Porzingis crap. NO THANK YOU!!!!"Never apologize for coming to me. Office hours are for patients.
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DanH wrote: View Post
It's also against a Clippers team that doesn't have any bigs.
Porzingis is not Bargs. Bargs was one of the worst players ever to play a major role.
But Porzingis is also paid almost what Pascal is, and his best year is best compared to Siakam's down year in terms of overall production (slightly more efficient - though almost entirely from 3PT%, slightly more rebounds, slightly less scoring, as you'd expect from a C vs a PF) except with absolutely none of the playmaking (and he's seen barely any variation in AST% his entire 5 years, it's not a Luka thing). Already Pascal needs to bounce back a bit to be worth that contract (which he is quite capable of). I'm not sure I think Porzingis has a step up from his current production in him.
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Primer wrote: View Post
Zinger is overpaid for sure, but we don't have any realistic paths of getting a comparable talent at that age. No free agents will sign here so I'm fine with overpaying Zinger if the price was just a Lowry S&T. I think he would be pretty phenomenal in our offense and as long as he keeps rebounding at a high clip he's a ridiculously huge upgrade for us at Center and if healthy makes us a really competitive team in the East.
I’m mostly thankful that we have a superb front office who can appropriately weigh a question like this one, and who I trust would only move on that if it were the right call.
If they went for it, I’d be along for the ride.
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If Rockets draft Mobley and move Woods to the 4... Any chance we get a canadian trio inside with Birch coming back and Olynyk coming in?
Olynyk/Birch/Gillespie
Siakam/Boucher/Watson
Anunoby/Watanabe/Harris
Lowry/Trent.Jr/Suggs
VanVleet/Flynn/Bembry
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TomAmnot wrote: View PostIf Rockets draft Mobley and move Woods to the 4... Any chance we get a canadian trio inside with Birch coming back and Olynyk coming in?
Olynyk/Birch/Gillespie
Siakam/Boucher/Watson
Anunoby/Watanabe/Harris
Lowry/Trent.Jr/Suggs
VanVleet/Flynn/Bembry
Certainly seems possible.
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chris wrote: View Postmy main hesitancy in a trade for zinger would be health. ppl shat all over him for the playoff performance but nobody can look good next to doncic at that usage, he's the most ball dominant player ever. they need to rely less on doncic making every single play for them.
As you pointed out he requires the ball too much and can't play off ball. Luka without the ball would be ok if you are Lowry or some guy who is at Luka's level. Lowry is just that smart honestly.
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TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
He is Bargnani 2.0. Doesn't rebound enough for a 7 footer. I can see OKC trading for him but that would be a mistake. I also think they lost their asset to do it in Horford.
As you pointed out he requires the ball too much and can't play off ball. Luka without the ball would be ok if you are Lowry or some guy who is at Luka's level. Lowry is just that smart honestly.
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