At some point you have to put upside aside Abe have a vet that can come in and give you quality minutes. We already have 6or 7 guys that we are tying to develop.
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Hotshot wrote: View Post
He wasn't bad last year, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten the contract from the Raptors and given minutes after being brought up from the G-league over Banes (who was unfortunately bad).
See now you are being ridiculous.
-9.6 Net Rating in his time here was pretty awful. And I've been watching him in SL. He's pretty good at giving away points. And that's against mostly other scrubs.
Just don't think he's any good. And that Egyptian comment was sarcasm. Still don't think Freddie G should be here next season. If he is, than I hope it's 100% for the 905.
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planetmars wrote: View Post
I know Freddie got a deal.. it was to thank him for finishing things off with them in a tank season. He helped the tank though
-9.6 Net Rating in his time here was pretty awful. And I've been watching him in SL. He's pretty good at giving away points. And that's against mostly other scrubs.
Just don't think he's any good. And that Egyptian comment was sarcasm. Still don't think Freddie G should be here next season. If he is, than I hope it's 100% for the 905.Only one thing matters: We The Champs.
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Hotshot wrote: View PostBut Gillespie is the 14th guy! When you are the 14th guy you ain't suppose to be getting minutes anyway unless injuries do occur. In the meantime he is a big body to work around at practice.
I'm worried that this team needs depth at C. We have Birch and Achiuwa and a bunch of guys that can play C in a pinch (like OG, Pascal, maybe Barnes).
I'd like the 14th or 15th guy to give us some stability. Our season went down the toilet when Len got waived, and we had to settle on Baynes as our only big guy and we saw what happened.
Pascal is not even going to play for the first 3-4 weeks. We may have to play Gillespie and that bothers me. Would love an upgrade. I might not get my wish though unless we can find a trade for Dragic. But then we become weak at PG if that happens.
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MixxAOR wrote: View Post
So his net rating was worse than Aron Baynes? I'll trust my eye test on this.
But Freddie was also inserted when we were really trying to lose. Baynes was playing when we were trying to win. So that's why Baynes looked worse. Statistically Freddie was worse though.
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planetmars wrote: View Post
Baynes got to play more games with guys like Kyle, Pascal and Fred. Freddie was Birch's backup so was usually playing with Stanimal, Flynn and Watanabe.
But Freddie was also inserted when we were really trying to lose. Baynes was playing when we were trying to win. So that's why Baynes looked worse. Statistically Freddie was worse though.Only one thing matters: We The Champs.
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MixxAOR wrote: View Post
Oh come on that's hindsight 20/20
The guy was an undrafted rookie. And averaged just under 20mpg. We weren't trying for those last 20 games.
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planetmars wrote: View Post
Wait you actually think we were trying to win games with Gillespie? We had him for 20 games, and were 7-13 with him. 20-32 without. So better record without him (granted, not by much).
The guy was an undrafted rookie. And averaged just under 20mpg. We weren't trying for those last 20 games.
They didn't get Gillespie to lose. Raptors FO doesn't operate like that. Baynes was so bad that it was affecting other players. No need to put Freddie down and saying oh he helped the tank. Team as a whole was bad.
He played fine in his role.Last edited by MixxAOR; Sat Aug 14, 2021, 06:00 PM.Only one thing matters: We The Champs.
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MixxAOR wrote: View Post
lol i remember you hoping for play in till the very end. so don't give me that
They didn't get Gillespie to lose. Raptors FO doesn't operate like that. Baynes was so bad that it was affecting other players. No need to put Freddie down and saying oh he helped the tank. Team as a whole was bad.
He played fine in his role.
It was also pretty clear when Lowry had his press conference and told the world he was "well rested".
Freddie was fun though. I mean the team liked him. Especially in that one video where they made him and Flynn sing that Miley Cyrus song. But I never thought he was any good. And he's been pretty bad in SL too.
Either way you can be a fan.. I personally hope they don't guarantee him for next season. I would like someone else in his spot.
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planetmars wrote: View Post
I mean he was bought out and we picked him for cheap.. and he turned into a pleasant surprise. Outplayed his time in Orlando with the short time he had year.
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