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  • golden wrote: View Post

    How TF does anybody vote for Cade @ #1? I mean, if Barnes gets Cade's unlimited usage with no incentive to win games; then Scottie might be putting up a stat-line somewhere near 24/12/6, but easily 20/10/5, which I think would be historic for a rookie.
    All 3 teams sucked last year. Only one still does. There are other reasons Toronto and Cleveland are much much better than last year, but one of those reasons is definitely Barnes and Mobleys additions and contributions.
    9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum

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    • chris wrote: View Post

      yeah i like rusillo but disagree with him on this one, obviously. he basically said that he's never subscribed to the win argument when it comes to ROY, and that he thought cade had the most difficult job on a possession by possession basis. he acknowledged that cade's argument falls apart when looking at efficiency/the advanced numbers, and said he really loves barnes and mobley as well.

      he's not alone though. i've seen a few picks for cade. not sure how many of the people below have a real vote though (rusillo does for sure).

      https://www.si.com/nba/2022/04/11/nb...he-year-ballot

      https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/video/nb...180245043.html

      https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/ins...t-year-players
      Yeah, Cade has the most difficult job.... and he's failing miserably at it, except for 1 month. Are we handing out ROTY based on 1 hot month? That's the other problem I have with voting for Cade.

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      • chris wrote: View Post

        yeah i like rusillo but disagree with him on this one, obviously. he basically said that he's never subscribed to the win argument when it comes to ROY, and that he thought cade had the most difficult job on a possession by possession basis. he acknowledged that cade's argument falls apart when looking at efficiency/the advanced numbers, and said he really loves barnes and mobley as well.

        he's not alone though. i've seen a few picks for cade. not sure how many of the people below have a real vote though (rusillo does for sure).

        https://www.si.com/nba/2022/04/11/nb...he-year-ballot

        https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/video/nb...180245043.html

        https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/ins...t-year-players
        All leading up to the season the media had Toronto missing the playoffs, a rebuild year, 35 wins. Now they win 48 and get the 5 seed and all of a sudden scottie is penalized for winning because he's surrounded by "championship pedigree". Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
        9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum

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        • chris wrote: View Post

          nice. thought it'd go to cade because his numbers were crazy, but nice to see whoever looks at this stuff considers winning, as cade sat out some games to help his team tank.
          thsi is garbage....they announce it the day they vote?......bullshit....absolute bullshit...too obvious if they wouldve announced it the day after....so they do the next best thing....announce it the day of

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          • KeonClark wrote: View Post

            All 3 teams sucked last year. Only one still does. There are other reasons Toronto and Cleveland are much much better than last year, but one of those reasons is definitely Barnes and Mobleys additions and contributions.

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            • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUMIvietjsg


              i gamble on boxing pretty much everey weekend and since scottie has now won rom two times ...my opniion....mobely winning it is now a roberry....its not a bad decision...it is a robbery...like golovkin draw agaisnt canelo in teh 1st fight
              Last edited by gambler; Mon Apr 11, 2022, 05:20 PM.

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              • golden wrote: View Post


                Tankin' ain't easy
                9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum

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                • https://twitter.com/shamscharania/st...txFVAYPYHZOhVQ

                  https://twitter.com/shamscharania/st...txFVAYPYHZOhVQ

                  Very nice interview Sharms of Scottie

                  Articulate, very intelligent based on his responses and HE totally nailed it on why he should be the ROY

                  I am so proud of myself that I defended the idea in my own little way of him starting to fasttrack his development versus him coming off the bench. The backward opinion then on why start him when he was a bench player in college. Thanks NN and I am sure stronger push of support by both Masai and Bobby to start him versus having him wait for his turn.

                  Amazing first year

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                  • gambler wrote: View Post

                    thsi is garbage....they announce it the day they vote?......bullshit....absolute bullshit...too obvious if they wouldve announced it the day after....so they do the next best thing....announce it the day of
                    do you think it would have made a difference if it was announced at midnight EST last night after the late games ended? they have to wait until the evaluation period is over (ie. until the april games are concluded)

                    i think your 10-1 scottie wager has you angry at the man when i'm not sure there's a reason to be

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                    • chris wrote: View Post

                      do you think it would have made a difference if it was announced at midnight EST last night after the late games ended? they have to wait until the evaluation period is over (ie. until the april games are concluded)

                      i think your 10-1 scottie wager has you angry at the man when i'm not sure there's a reason to be
                      it shuldve been announced on apirl 4 or 5 th....like malachis was on may 4th last year...and no its not just me thats pissed....how do you think scottie and his family feel right now....its crooked....tehy point blank stole something form scottie barnes.....imo...someon had a very large postion on mobely to win roy....and thats why they held out the rom annoncement until the day of teh vote

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                      • gambler wrote: View Post

                        it shuldve been announced on apirl 4 or 5 th....like malachis was on may 4th last year...and no its not just me thats pissed....how do you think scottie and his family feel right now....its crooked....tehy point blank stole something form scottie barnes.....imo...someon had a very large postion on mobely to win roy....and thats why they held out the rom annoncement until the day of teh vote
                        dude they couldn't announce it on the 4th or 5th for the same reason voters weren't voting for ROY on the 4th or 5th... the evaluation period wasn't over.

                        like i said above, i have no idea why games played in may last year weren't factored into the april ROTM, but that wasn't the norm. the pandemic fucked with the schedule.

                        but lumping together the march and april games has been more the norm prior to the pandemic. three years ago to the day on april 11th, trae young and luka doncic were announced the march/april winners.

                        it's not a conspiracy to screw over gamblers.

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                        • chris wrote: View Post

                          dude they couldn't announce it on the 4th or 5th for the same reason voters weren't voting for ROY on the 4th or 5th... the evaluation period wasn't over.

                          like i said above, i have no idea why games played in may last year weren't factored into the april ROTM, but that wasn't the norm. the pandemic fucked with the schedule.

                          but lumping together the march and april games has been more the norm prior to the pandemic. three years ago to the day on april 11th, trae young and luka doncic were announced the march/april winners.

                          it's not a conspiracy to screw over gamblers.
                          not GAMBLERS, just gambler
                          9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum

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                          • jalen suggs who?

                            don’t ever disrespect me …

                            https://youtube.com/shorts/Be_S2wktN44?feature=share

                            “this goes out to you, this goes out to you, you and you”
                            Last edited by grindhouse; Mon Apr 11, 2022, 11:26 PM.

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                            • chris wrote: View Post

                              dude they couldn't announce it on the 4th or 5th for the same reason voters weren't voting for ROY on the 4th or 5th... the evaluation period wasn't over.

                              like i said above, i have no idea why games played in may last year weren't factored into the april ROTM, but that wasn't the norm. the pandemic fucked with the schedule.

                              but lumping together the march and april games has been more the norm prior to the pandemic. three years ago to the day on april 11th, trae young and luka doncic were announced the march/april winners.

                              it's not a conspiracy to screw over gamblers.
                              thanks....i stand corrected....just bad luck for scottie bcz if they announce this on friday imo he wins teh roy...i tihnk wining the rom two times to evans one wouldve sealed the deal...again...thanks for the research

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                              • Good to know that some people who voted didn't make up their minds a long time ago and actually looked at the whole picture (start at 4:19)

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