Everything Scottie Barnes

[slaw]

my friend doesn't believe he is playing like a top 10 player he feels as though siakam is a selfish player and he is getting in the way of his development in favor of personal gain or goals.

Your friend is an idiot.

[Kagemusha]

giannis isn't selfish though.. you can be assertive and not selfish... I mean scottie had 16 shots last game.. i dont htink the shot totals matter what matters is a few things.. the amount he attacks and the amount he is handling the ball to initiate the offence..

Being a BIT more selfish means looking to score more on his own.
I am not saying full on selfish, coz that's not in his DNA.

[TrueTorontoFan]

Your friend is an idiot.

he is extremely biased

[The Claw Reborn]

can you elaborate on this I have never discussed this but I see similarities between the two but curious if you can elaborate.

I have a friend who thinks its all siakam's fault

Both Lowry and Pascal pretend to be an Alpha and are always trying their hardest to be one but they are just not built to be one, they are more of a shadow of someone who is. Honestly, It is not a bad thing. They just approach the game like it is a team sport, where everybody else should have A hand in winning the game. They are both the yin of another yang.

You can see how effective the chemistry between Pascal and Scottie is. But I just don’t see it between VanVleet and Scottie.

As far as your friend, I think I may have already answered it, Siakam fits perfectly in a peg with Scottie in it as well

[The Claw Reborn]

I mean, Barnes has better numbers with FVV than without him. This was true last year and is true so far this season. This narrative of blaming other players when Barnes doesn't do exactly what people want is ridiculous.

Barnes has played < 100 games in the league. He is still a very young player adjusting to pro ball, new systems, and opponents who are scouting him and know all his tendencies. He has almost all the skills and just needs time to put it all together. Have some bloody patience.

I was never impatient of Scottie’s game. I personally never implied that in any of my posts, did I? So putting words into my mouth is the thing I totally don’t agree with your response.

But As far as the games with Scottie and VanVleet, these two weeks without Siakam can be a good measure where they both at in terms of chemistry and how it translates to the overall success of the team. I am not rooting for the team to lose to prove my point….but just like the last win, I would like to see how engage and involve Scottie is in the flow of the game or will he just be reliant once again to VanVleet’s high volume of shots. I didn’t see that way when both Pascal and Scottie manhandled both Atlanta and San Antonio in a very relaxing and convincing win and not the grinding, pound the rock, playing in mud type of game (win or lose)

We’ve been there with Derozan for a decade.

[Primer]

In my opinion, this is another JV situation. He totally got held back in the first 6 years of his career. I am not saying that the career trajectory of JV could be the trajectory of Scottie nor I am saying that they have the same skillset but JV played very well beside a player who is more than willing to make him better like a Kyle Lowry or Ja Morant.

*** I see Pascal’s approach of the game like Lowry ***

But Now JV is back to where he started, playing alongside someone with same skillset as Derozan in CJ McCollum.

Scottie plays more engaged when he is with Pascal vs. a player like VanVleet.

If Masai is seriously expecting for Scottie to blossom and reach his full potential, they have to either force VanVleet to come off the bench when Pascal is back or consider trading VanVleet.

Last night’s game was like watching a rerun of a Raptors team with Derozan at the helm.

That was due to Casey purposefully not giving JV minutes and opportunities to grow his game. Nurse operates in the exact opposite. He gives guys freedom to try out new stuff on the court and expand their games. Coaching won't be holding Scottie back. I think it's just he's a bit injured so he hasn't been as aggressive as he should be. I haven't seen any indicators that Nurse is telling him to hold back.

[The Claw Reborn]

That was due to Casey purposefully not giving JV minutes and opportunities to grow his game. Nurse operates in the exact opposite. He gives guys freedom to try out new stuff on the court and expand their games. Coaching won't be holding Scottie back. I think it's just he's a bit injured so he hasn't been as aggressive as he should be. I haven't seen any indicators that Nurse is telling him to hold back.

I really hope so.

We got treated with a dynamic starting line up of Koloko/ Pascal/ OG/ Scottie and Trent but that was so short lived…craving for more

Pascal get healthy soon

[TrueTorontoFan]

[TrueTorontoFan]

Both Lowry and Pascal pretend to be an Alpha and are always trying their hardest to be one but they are just not built to be one, they are more of a shadow of someone who is. Honestly, It is not a bad thing. They just approach the game like it is a team sport, where everybody else should have A hand in winning the game. They are both the yin of another yang.

You can see how effective the chemistry between Pascal and Scottie is. But I just don’t see it between VanVleet and Scottie.

As far as your friend, I think I may have already answered it, Siakam fits perfectly in a peg with Scottie in it as well

interesting ok I think of the comparison in a completely different direction but interesting never the less.


I do agree though that they both approach it like its a team sport.

[Maury]

Although the counting stats aren’t there right now, Scottie is very clearly better than he was last year. Unfortunately, as others have mentioned, he’s playing on at least one if not two bum ankles, and he’s basically a pylon on defence right now. To make matters worse, he’s struggling to get to the rim because he can’t move laterally. Whether he’s timid or he actually can’t generate force going laterally, it’s affecting him on both sides of the ball. I would love to see him take a couple weeks off before he really hurts himself. The weaker the ankle is the more prone it is to roll, it would be a real shame for him to do what Precious just did to one of his ankles.

[Maury]

I’d still like to see him more aggressive in the post. He’s looking to pass out of the post too often, I think he’s strong enough to punish most guys down there and he’s long enough to finish over them, although again, he’s probably timid down in the paint because he’s afraid to go up and land awkwardly.

[The Claw Reborn]

There is nothing wrong with Scottie…

VanVleet has to step back and let Scottie be the primary initiator of the offense FULLTIME

starting games with this kind of role definition allows him to establish a rhythm that would favor the team not just on that given game but long term

[Kagemusha]

There is nothing wrong with Scottie…

VanVleet has to step back and let Scottie be the primary initiator of the offense FULLTIME

starting games with this kind of role definition allows him to establish a rhythm that would favor the team not just on that given game but long term

I believe part of the reason that Scottie is playing like this ia because the kid is confused of his role in this team.
Actually l think the coach is confused too. Lol
This team seems to not have a leader, or leaders. We used to have that in Lowry before. Fred should assume that role, but he isn't doing that on a consistent basis. Especially when the team is trailing.

[The Great One]

Narratives and agendas everywhere. Lol.

[guyroch]

There is nothing wrong with Scottie…

VanVleet has to step back and let Scottie be the primary initiator of the offense FULLTIME

starting games with this kind of role definition allows him to establish a rhythm that would favor the team not just on that given game but long term

Scottie is putting up Ben Simmons type of stat lines . We have to remember he is only in his second year but he always shows
glimpses of greatness but they it only shows up a couple of times through out the game .