Everything Scottie Barnes

[bertarapsfan]

Yea to me it seems the jump hasn't happened is due more to finding a role and where to utilize Scottie rather then skills. He is taking a back seat on ball handling and set up. He has showed really good flashes of playmaking and QBing the offense. But Pascal has played like a top 10 guy doing that so hard to give those roles to Scottie.. last year he got a lot of scoring his own grabbing o boards, grabbing d boards and running the court and tip in put backs. That could be attributed to effort or lingering injury which is something that should improve or Nick will have to talk to him of its an effort thing

[Kagemusha]

Yea to me it seems the jump hasn't happened is due more to finding a role and where to utilize Scottie rather then skills. He is taking a back seat on ball handling and set up. He has showed really good flashes of playmaking and QBing the offense. But Pascal has played like a top 10 guy doing that so hard to give those roles to Scottie.. last year he got a lot of scoring his own grabbing o boards, grabbing d boards and running the court and tip in put backs. That could be attributed to effort or lingering injury which is something that should improve or Nick will have to talk to him of its an effort thing

Scottie is and was never a lazy player. Lol
More like a combination of health and role utilization.

[golden]

The point about team cohesion is a good one. I notice Scottie is most comfortable in his role when he shares the floor with Pascal. He knows exactly what to do and where to be. When Pascal was injured Scottie sort of drifted without that clear understanding of what his role is. Some of that is on Scottie to establish himself and some of that is on Nurse for not making it clear.

Nurse's un-scripted read and react system is 100% dependent on the ball handler's abilities & decision making. Everybody is most comfortable with Pascal because he creates advantages to get them easier shots. But Fred pounding the ball, rarely creating advantages and tossing surprise grenades to his teammates near the end of the shot clock... that is not going to develop chemistry or rhythm with anybody.

[golden]

Yea to me it seems the jump hasn't happened is due more to finding a role and where to utilize Scottie rather then skills. He is taking a back seat on ball handling and set up. He has showed really good flashes of playmaking and QBing the offense. But Pascal has played like a top 10 guy doing that so hard to give those roles to Scottie.. last year he got a lot of scoring his own grabbing o boards, grabbing d boards and running the court and tip in put backs. That could be attributed to effort or lingering injury which is something that should improve or Nick will have to talk to him of its an effort thing

I don't know if it's related, but also perhaps bulking up has affected his touch around the rim. He seems to be missing those short push shots and tip-ins that were automatic last year.

[LJ2]

Nurse's un-scripted read and react system is 100% dependent on the ball handler's abilities & decision making. Everybody is most comfortable with Pascal because he creates advantages to get them easier shots. But Fred pounding the ball, rarely creating advantages and tossing surprise grenades to his teammates near the end of the shot clock... that is not going to develop chemistry or rhythm with anybody.

I get where you're coming from about Fred's limitations. To me it's sort of the same as the Gary starting conversation....who better do you have to fill that role? The hope was that Scottie would have a big season and assume that role as secondary creator and lead when Pascal is not available, but he's going through some growing pains. May not be to the standard we want but Fred is the best option by quite a margin at the moment.

[Kagemusha]

I don't know if it's related, but also perhaps bulking up has affected his touch around the rim. He seems to be missing those short push shots and tip-ins that were automatic last year.

Most probably not, no one loses that skill.
Embiid bulked up and never lost it.

Pehaps his trainer is having him focus on other things and Nick needs to utilize Scottie's strength more.
Why is he making a 3 & D player in games when he is clearly so much more than that.
Scottie can clearly facilitate but it's the stupid pecking order that ruins his game.
There are times when he CAN defer to Fred for sure, and there are games when he should take over.
Last night was one of them.

[TrueTorontoFan]

Yea to me it seems the jump hasn't happened is due more to finding a role and where to utilize Scottie rather then skills. He is taking a back seat on ball handling and set up. He has showed really good flashes of playmaking and QBing the offense. But Pascal has played like a top 10 guy doing that so hard to give those roles to Scottie.. last year he got a lot of scoring his own grabbing o boards, grabbing d boards and running the court and tip in put backs. That could be attributed to effort or lingering injury which is something that should improve or Nick will have to talk to him of its an effort thing

he does need to improve on his ball handling still

[Kagemusha]

he does need to improve on his ball handling still

Develop a solid go-to move, and be able to navigate in tight spaces ala-Luka.
Would be great if he can master Pascal's spin, or Kawhi's turn around J.
He can euro-step but don't see it often this year.
Assertiveness is the overall key to really unleashing his full potential, where is that this year though is what frustrates all of us.

[A.I]

Well development isn't linear. He'll figure it out.

[TrueTorontoFan]

Develop a solid go-to move, and be able to navigate in tight spaces ala-Luka.
Would be great if he can master Pascal's spin, or Kawhi's turn around J.
He can euro-step but don't see it often this year.
Assertiveness is the overall key to really unleashing his full potential, where is that this year though is what frustrates all of us.

well its that and being able to keep it lower and don't lose it as easily "tighten it up"


also he likes to go through his arsenal of moves that he collected but needs to keep it simple and just relentlessly drive and overtime the other stuff will come/ he will figure it out because he is that good .

[bertarapsfan]

Scottie is and was never a lazy player. Lol
More like a combination of health and role utilization.

Maybe health maybe effort. He has had stretches of games where he isnt going after 50 50 balls or jumping or opportunity on both defense and offense that he isn't displaying the same energy he did last year. It's confusing

[JawsGT]

He isn't aggressive enough that's for sure. Takes too many jump shots. Doesn't have the energy that he had last year and his attention on defence has been awful. I don't believe this is due to a pecking order thing, or role definition. Scottie is the type of player that can create his role by being aggressive and hunting opportunities to score or warp the D to create shots for teammates. But he just gives the ball up too quickly and isn't assertive enough. I don't think anyone is holding him back. I also doubt that he is anywhere near 100% and he may be concerned it could lead to a more severe injury.

[Kagemusha]

He isn't aggressive enough that's for sure. Takes too many jump shots. Doesn't have the energy that he had last year and his attention on defence has been awful. I don't believe this is due to a pecking order thing, or role definition. Scottie is the type of player that can create his role by being aggressive and hunting opportunities to score or warp the D to create shots for teammates. But he just gives the ball up too quickly and isn't assertive enough. I don't think anyone is holding him back. I also doubt that he is anywhere near 100% and he may be concerned it could lead to a more severe injury.

Exactly.
He is being extra cautious.
Maybe he is dealing with an injury that doesn't require sitting out but at the same time can be aggravated.
Something 50-50?
Like the direction this team is currently heading?

[SkywalkerAC]

Scottie will be fine.

[G__Deane]

Scottie will be fine.