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That was me. The point wasn't Cleveland > Toronto, since Cavs and Raptors both foils for the big markets. The point is that ESPN would prefer ANY American market over Toronto and whether or not that factors into the hype of Mobley over Barnes. It definitely factors into the ratings that advertisers make decisions on and I'm not an expert on how the non-US pie gets allocated, so I'll defer to you on that.
My guess is that the Raptors getting back to the NBA finals would give the networks a heart attack. The network's dream scenario is: Steph vs. Lebron in the WCF and KD vs. the Bulls (or maybe Giannis) in the ECF.
International viewership and the NBA's globalization strategy is a different topic altogether. Canada is a tiny fish compared to what the league has it sights set on worldwide. 30M population (of mostly hockey and curling fanatics) is miniscule. Heck, even beyond Europe & China, the league is planting seeds and investing in Africa to capitalize on expected market growth down the road.
Toronto has more Chinese than every city in the USA except New York city. Chinese make up 9.5% of New York city and 21.5% of Toronto.
If you want to appeal to the Chinese market there is no better city in North America than Toronto, and Canada is a far more approachable market than the USA due to a higher concentration of Chinese and nowhere near the adversarial relationship between the two countries.
Here's an article from the NBA themselves describing how important the Raptors are to the Chinese market. https://www.nba.com/raptors/importan...nese-community
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Who gets to vote on these annual awards?
Sportswriters and broadcasters.
majority of them Americans.
Scottie is an American and is playing for a Canadian team.
These voters picked a Greek Nigerian player who's playing on a small market team as MVP.
twice.
I don't think the tv networks have anything to do with that.Last edited by Kagemusha; Tue Dec 21, 2021, 12:15 AM.
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When this team is at full strength what will the 3 headed monster of Pascal, OG, and Scottie look like? Short term/long term can we keep all 3? There does seem o be a lot of duplication but enough differences to make it work. Will we stay small ball or does one get relegated to coming off the bench?
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WJF wrote: View PostWhen this team is at full strength what will the 3 headed monster of Pascal, OG, and Scottie look like? Short term/long term can we keep all 3? There does seem o be a lot of duplication but enough differences to make it work. Will we stay small ball or does one get relegated to coming off the bench?
The question is, do they bench Trent, or do they go small? The small look has been pretty bad this year. I'd hope they start a nominal C, if for no other reason than to ensure there are minutes for both Birch and Precious, who both deserve to be in the rotation. I guess the other question is which C they start, but at this point that debate now feels like a luxury.
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5.1% of the Canadian population identifies as of ethnic Chinese origin compared to 1.5% of Americans.
Toronto has more Chinese than every city in the USA except New York city. Chinese make up 9.5% of New York city and 21.5% of Toronto.
If you want to appeal to the Chinese market there is no better city in North America than Toronto, and Canada is a far more approachable market than the USA due to a higher concentration of Chinese and nowhere near the adversarial relationship between the two countries.
Here's an article from the NBA themselves describing how important the Raptors are to the Chinese market. https://www.nba.com/raptors/importan...nese-community
What the actually fuck? How fucking ignorant are you? Do you have any fucking clue that "Chinese" are not a single homogeneous group, no more than Black Americans are the same as native-born Africans? That group you cited in the article are mostly (if not all) Hong Kong Cantonese and probably CBCs (Canadian Born Chinese). Just check out the spelling of the names: Cam, Chan, Cheng, Chu, Lee. From a marketing standpoint, the group in the article zero relevance to the mainland Chinese group that the NBA is marketing to. If anything, the NBA alienated that same Hong Kong/Cantonese population after the Morey tweet, backing the government. Do you actually know any "Chinese" people personally. I highly doubt it. Holy fuck.
Now... back to Scottie. lol. A bigger Kawhi... with playmaking.
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I would expect if anyone gets relegated to the bench to avoid small ball it is Trent. His game fits best off the bench of those four anyway (ability to create and make some tough shots while our playmakers get some rest).
The question is, do they bench Trent, or do they go small? The small look has been pretty bad this year. I'd hope they start a nominal C, if for no other reason than to ensure there are minutes for both Birch and Precious, who both deserve to be in the rotation. I guess the other question is which C they start, but at this point that debate now feels like a luxury.
Matching this up to our current C's and current bench, maybe Scottie/Trent/Precious plus the bench (including Yuta) and Fred/Pascal/Khem (including Banton)?
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WJF wrote: View PostWhen this team is at full strength what will the 3 headed monster of Pascal, OG, and Scottie look like? Short term/long term can we keep all 3? There does seem o be a lot of duplication but enough differences to make it work. Will we stay small ball or does one get relegated to coming off the bench?
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I think I'd like to see both Scottie and Trent with the bench when we're resting Fred, to add playmaking to Trent's shooting. It'd mean that either there would be some time where Scottie is not playing with the starters, or there'd need to be some time where there are other starters playing with the bench (Fred + Pascal, maybe)? Even when we're healthy, I don't think our bench has truly been four players deep this year.
Matching this up to our current C's and current bench, maybe Scottie/Trent/Precious plus the bench (including Yuta) and Fred/Pascal/Khem (including Banton)?
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Before we get back to Scottie talk, let me respond to this... in my best Primer imitation:
What the actually fuck? How fucking ignorant are you? Do you have any fucking clue that "Chinese" are not a single homogeneous group, no more than Black Americans are the same as native-born Africans? That group you cited in the article are mostly (if not all) Hong Kong Cantonese and probably CBCs (Canadian Born Chinese). Just check out the spelling of the names: Cam, Chan, Cheng, Chu, Lee. From a marketing standpoint, the group in the article zero relevance to the mainland Chinese group that the NBA is marketing to. If anything, the NBA alienated that same Hong Kong/Cantonese population after the Morey tweet, backing the government. Do you actually know any "Chinese" people personally. I highly doubt it. Holy fuck.
Now... back to Scottie. lol. A bigger Kawhi... with playmaking.
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golden wrote: View Post
Before we get back to Scottie talk, let me respond to this... in my best Primer imitation:
What the actually fuck? How fucking ignorant are you? Do you have any fucking clue that "Chinese" are not a single homogeneous group, no more than Black Americans are the same as native-born Africans? That group you cited in the article are mostly (if not all) Hong Kong Cantonese and probably CBCs (Canadian Born Chinese). Just check out the spelling of the names: Cam, Chan, Cheng, Chu, Lee. From a marketing standpoint, the group in the article zero relevance to the mainland Chinese group that the NBA is marketing to. If anything, the NBA alienated that same Hong Kong/Cantonese population after the Morey tweet, backing the government. Do you actually know any "Chinese" people personally. I highly doubt it. Holy fuck.
Now... back to Scottie. lol. A bigger Kawhi... with playmaking.
As a Chinese-Canadian from mainland 22 years ago, I can see Toronto market is quite important to mainland Chinese market.
Actually, Toronto is a great market if you want international exposure. Just look at how many fans Yuta got in Toronto, where else can he get these fans?
My daughter&son's school all play basket-ball, soccer, volleyball,1 in 10 play hockey, heck more baseball playing kids than hockey.
Every year in last 2.5 decades, 100K+ affluent Chinese came from mainland China, many more if you add students, most of them stay, some went back,
all have lots of relatives and friends in mainland China. Many are rich and have large influence.
Remember how popular was Jeremy Lin in Toronto, he is not even from mainland.
So yeah, Toronto is a great market for international exposure.
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