Everything Scottie Barnes

[iblastoff]

We're not building around Poeltl we're building around Scottie and Poeltl is an excellent fit with Scottie and solves the center issue.

The Spurs are still looking for someone to build around, and if they don't get Wemby they will still be looking for someone to build around. There is a massive gap between us and them.

we have a good center. but i dont think that solves the center issue due to lack of spacing/shooting. pair that with scottie who also can't shoot and im not seeing how thats gonna be good for anyone.

the fact that there already problems fitting someone as versatile as siakam with poeltl / scottie is a red flag to me.

[golden]

We're not building around Poeltl we're building around Scottie and Poeltl is an excellent fit with Scottie and solves the center issue.

The Spurs are still looking for someone to build around, and if they don't get Wemby they will still be looking for someone to build around. There is a massive gap between us and them.

Jakob solves defense, but isn't a great fit around Scottie for offense. For Scottie, you need the Giannis model, with a Brook Lopez or Myles Turner stretch 5.

[TomAmnot]

Can we just all remember that it's Scottie's 2nd season? I think it's a bit early to start getting nervous about his development curve. Let's wait until next season, please!

[golden]

It's becoming apparent Nurse's system is great for veteran teams with contending rosters.

It's not a great system for young players to develop.

It's like being thrown into a PhD program out of high school.

High IQ All-star, MVP, DPOY, caliber veterans, etc... can make almost any system work. They made a Box & 1 work against the defending champs in the NBA Finals - straight out of a timeout without ever seeing it before. Kudos to Nurse for dreaming that up, but you needed future HoFs to execute that.

[Kagemusha]

Jakob solves defense, but isn't a great fit around Scottie for offense. For Scottie, you need the Giannis model, with a Brook Lopez or Myles Turner stretch 5.

Makes you wonder why they drafted Koloko.
What is the real plan?

[TomAmnot]

Makes you wonder why they drafted Koloko.
What is the real plan?

I think the plan was for Precious, Birch and Porter to perform more.

[Primer]

Jakob solves defense, but isn't a great fit around Scottie for offense. For Scottie, you need the Giannis model, with a Brook Lopez or Myles Turner stretch 5.

Brook Lopez literally never shot a 3 until he was 28 years old. We can have Poeltl start shooting 3s if that's what we need.

I also think it's absurd to say that Scottie can't play next to a traditional pick and roll center like Poeltl.

[golden]

Brook Lopez literally never shot a 3 until he was 28 years old. We can have Poeltl start shooting 3s if that's what we need.

I also think it's absurd to say that Scottie can't play next to a traditional pick and roll center like Poeltl.

Nobody’s saying Jak can’t develop shooting in the future, but as of now, he’s not the best fit with Scottie from a spacing perspective. That’s all everybody is saying.

That said, Jak’s free throw % doesn’t provide much hope of him developing into a shooter.

[Primer]

Makes you wonder why they drafted Koloko.
What is the real plan?

Well we drafted Koloko before we had Poeltl. He's also a development project that will be perfect as Poeltl's backup. In 4 years when we're debating giving Poeltl a 2nd contract we may be comfortable with Koloko as the new starter.

[Primer]

Nobody’s saying Jak can’t develop shooting in the future, but as of now, he’s not the best fit with Scottie from a spacing perspective. That’s all everybody is saying.

That said, Jak’s free throw % doesn’t provide much hope of him developing into a shooter.

You can have a championship NBA team with a PF and C who aren't 3pt specialists.

[Kagemusha]

Well we drafted Koloko before we had Poeltl. He's also a development project that will be perfect as Poeltl's backup. In 4 years when we're debating giving Poeltl a 2nd contract we may be comfortable with Koloko as the new starter.

They drafted Koloko who is non shooter with the vision 6'9" in mind.
Doesn't make sense.

[Primer]

They drafted Koloko who is non shooter with the vision 6'9" in mind.
Doesn't make sense.

Koloko is 7ft shot blocking specialist. That's what we drafted him for.

He also placed 2nd in the combine 3pt contest so he can get there.

[golden]

Makes you wonder why they drafted Koloko.
What is the real plan?

I think they actually wanted to draft Nembhard, and Koloko was plan B or C. But we “needed” Thad for bench depth because Nurse was running the starters into the ground at a historic rate.

[iblastoff]

Brook Lopez literally never shot a 3 until he was 28 years old. We can have Poeltl start shooting 3s if that's what we need.

I also think it's absurd to say that Scottie can't play next to a traditional pick and roll center like Poeltl.

brook lopez has been shooting nearly 80% from the line his ENTIRE career. getting a 3 point shot was only a natural progression for him.
poeltl clearly is nowhere close to that mark. i dont think he NEEDS to shoot to succeed, but i think this team sorely would.

without gasol being a strong defender AND stretch 5 during the championship run, i think this team would have folded against milwaukee. remember this in double OT? dude was attempting nearly four 3 pointers a game and hitting them at a 38.7% clip. sad to say thats better than the entire current raptors roster.

i think starting Cs who dont have range are FINE if your team is full of superstars. thats why warriors are fine with looney because they have 3 starters that all shoot 40-44% from 3. this team doesnt even have ONE of those. so i would hardly count poeltl as some piece of core building block until real shooting is solved.

and i dont think its a stretch (haha pun) to say brook lopez continues to have a huge impact on the bucks winning in general and how it allows giannis to play even better thanks to, among other skills, his floor spacing.

meanwhile, the raptors are already seeing issues with poeltl and siakam playing together (exacerbated by the fact no one else on the team can shoot either) and you think the solution is to DUMP our best player to suit poeltls game? nah.

[Primer]

brook lopez has been shooting nearly 80% from the line his ENTIRE career. getting a 3 point shot was only a natural progression for him.
poeltl clearly is nowhere close to that mark. i dont think he NEEDS to shoot to succeed, but i think this team sorely would.

without gasol being a strong defender AND stretch 5 during the championship run, i think this team would have folded against milwaukee. remember this in double OT? dude was attempting nearly four 3 pointers a game and hitting them at a 38.7% clip. sad to say thats better than the entire current raptors roster.

i think starting Cs who dont have range are FINE if your team is full of superstars. thats why warriors are fine with looney because they have 3 starters that all shoot 40-44% from 3. this team doesnt even have ONE of those. so i would hardly count poeltl as some piece of core building block until real shooting is solved.

Literally no one respected Gasols 3. He did not space the floor with his 3. I watched every game that season and every team left him wide freaking open to take the 3. Poeltl provides just as much spacing as Gasol.

I also do not ascribe to FT = 3PT shot. It's very different mechanics on a 3 VS a FT.