Everything 2021-2022 Season

[Kagemusha]

He tried and got booed at a rally then stopped. His fan base went anti Vax when he lost.

Trump was pro vaccine not because he was playing with people's emotions but because he believed the vaxx would speed up the re-opening of the economy which would've helped his reelection bid immensely.
His supporters were not anti-vaxx, they are anti-mandate.
This is one thing that most people still fail to comprehend. Republican states never banned the vaxx.

[TrueTorontoFan]

Trump was pro vaccine not because he was playing with people's emotions but because he believed the vaxx would speed up the re-opening of the economy which would've helped his reelection bid immensely.
His supporters were not anti-vaxx, they are anti-mandate.
This is one thing that most people still fail to comprehend. Republican states never banned the vaxx.

this is correct partially. But you misread what I was saying. I will do ONE attempt to explain. When I said he played into people's emotions I am talking about in general. It is what he did that was really good in terms of playing towards populism. In terms of playing towards people being frustrated, he did that but to a point where people on all sides but especially on that side of the American political duopoly went against their logic. Not focusing on vaccines here. Going and focusing on overall rhetoric. The election etc. There are plenty of people that make their political ideology and world view based on what they witness on CNN or even Fox news. That is frankly dangerous.


Regarding Vaccines. I mean surprisingly some red states like Mississippi don't even allow for religious exemptions. Look I just stated that politicians haven't made every single decision using data.

Now all that said. To say his supporters are not antivax and only anti mandate is simply untrue. Some of them were antivax and some were antimandate. To what extent do they fall on either spectrum? I am not sure. Heck some people who are liberal voters are anti vax and anti mandate. That said, there is a higher proportion of blue states that were and are vaccinated for a number of reasons which is good. This is coming from someone who agrees that we shouldn't have mandates even if I understand fully and completely why they are being talked about or even suggested.

I have outlined a very middle of the road stance which probably isn't going to make you specifically or a lot of ppl on that side of the spectrum content but the point is I understand. I actually comprehend more than you could possibly know.







Again we can continue to derail the basketball discussion all you want. I would like to get back to basketball. Please I keep saying this I would like it if you would respect that.

[The Great One]

Has SGA surpassed Murray as the best Canadian player?

[Primer]

Trump was pro vaccine not because he was playing with people's emotions but because he believed the vaxx would speed up the re-opening of the economy which would've helped his reelection bid immensely.
His supporters were not anti-vaxx, they are anti-mandate.
This is one thing that most people still fail to comprehend. Republican states never banned the vaxx.

I live in Florida and know quite a few anti vaxxers and every single one is a huge Trump supporter. Sure they're also anti mandate and anti mask but they're also anti Vax, like nearly half the state. Not every republican is anti Vax but every anti vaxer is republican. Usually it's an income thing too. Rich Republicans get vaxxed, poor and middle class tend not to.

I do think if Trump had won we wouldn't have had all the anti Vax hysteria. He would have gotten his followers on board.

[TrueTorontoFan]

Has SGA surpassed Murray as the best Canadian player?

so excited for team canada

[golden]

Will NBA follow suit? Tampa Raptors, part II.

[planetmars]

With all these postponed games, I wonder if the league just goes to winning percentage to decide playoff seeding and/or tankathon seedings? I don't think they can play all games and finish the season on time. Especially if teams can't (or won't) get into Canada.

Or they seriously have to reconsider their covid protocols, but that is probably not going to happen. NBA was the first sports league that shut down back in 2020. They took it more seriously than anyone else. But money talks.

Either way this season has become more of a sh!t show than last season.. felt like we were the only team that was royally screwed last year.

[The Great One]

Will NBA follow suit? Tampa Raptors, part II.

It's not looking good. I don't think they can just move the team to Tampa though. I don't know what's gonna happen if the federal gov ban non essential travellers.

[slaw]

The NBA is going to power through. If crossing into Canada is a big issue, they will move the Raps for the season. The NHL has am entirely different problem with so many Canadian teams. Not sure what they do. Assuming no Olynpics with NHL players.

[Kagemusha]

Will NBA follow suit? Tampa Raptors, part II.

Nonsense.
If majority of the pollution is already triple vaxxed, what's the worry over a significantly milder variant.
You can't think but suspect they're just being overly paranoid.
again.

[bertarapsfan]

With all these postponed games, I wonder if the league just goes to winning percentage to decide playoff seeding and/or tankathon seedings? I don't think they can play all games and finish the season on time. Especially if teams can't (or won't) get into Canada.

Or they seriously have to reconsider their covid protocols, but that is probably not going to happen. NBA was the first sports league that shut down back in 2020. They took it more seriously than anyone else. But money talks.

Either way this season has become more of a sh!t show than last season.. felt like we were the only team that was royally screwed last year.

Think NBA had the weight of being the first to make a decision last time based on Rudy being first to test positive and every other league fell in line. This time around they have the benefit of other leagues being forced to make the business descion first. Don't expect them to go out of line and do anything more extreme then the NHL and NFL

[Ebonhawke]

Nonsense.
If majority of the pollution is already triple vaxxed, what's the worry over a significantly milder variant.
You can't think but suspect they're just being overly paranoid.
again.

Except the majority of people in North America aren't triple vaxxed at the moment, so the number of cases will continue to exist while third doses are getting administered

Omicron may be a milder variant compared to Delta - however, should there be a variant after Omicron, it might not be milder

[Kagemusha]

Except the majority of people in North America aren't triple vaxxed at the moment, so the number of cases will continue to exist while third doses are getting administered

Omicron may be a milder variant compared to Delta - however, should there be a variant after Omicron, it might not be milder

Bro, the way viruses work is that variants get weaker as they evolve.

[TrueTorontoFan]

Bro, the way viruses work is that variants get weaker as they evolve.

Sometimes, but not always.


Again though the real problem is America has only 60% vaccination rates. Their hospital networks likely won't be able to handle that many people getting severely sick ... especially if you look at the levels they operate at. They operate day to day right now at around an 80% rate. Was higher before covid but it is lower now. The other issue is the amount of people that can tend to those individuals. We have had a mounting shortage of workers in healthcare for YEARS. I will also add that they aren't training enough physicians and especially n the US they take the AMERICAN way of solving things and have been using mid-level providers as an alternative which is not the solution. A NP is not equal to a physician.



It isn't like each strain of the flu gets weaker and weaker. Hence why we have flu pandemics every so often.

[Ebonhawke]

Anyhow - this discussions should probably be moved to the more appropriate thread