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  • LJ2 wrote: View Post

    Internal growth is the main form of improvement this team can look forward to.

    Raps have a 5th seed team that was 5 wins away from tying for the first seed. That first seed is made up of mostly vets, have been together for a while (except Lowry and Tucker but they are vets and know how to adapt), and have no way to way to improve other than through a big trade. Heat are basically all-in at this point.

    Raps have two all stars that are 27 and took big steps this season, a guy in Barnes that has the potential to be a higher IQ version of Siakam (basically All NBA good), Trent Jr. who is a dynamic scorer and Precious who has a lot of raw ability.

    They don't have to worry about competing for a title next season either, it's going to be at least another season of development before these guys start hitting their stride.
    Exactly. This team is still 3 years away. The HOPE is that Pascal and Fred are consistent all stars the next few seasons, while Scottie eventually becomes the best player. Add in Precious who's shocked the shit out of me in his development this season and we could easily have a top 10 player at every position in 4 years, the hope is on Mr Barnes being top 10 OVERALL.

    Lots of ifs and buts, but its all we got, and it frankly doesn't seem too far fetched.
    9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum

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    • LJ2 wrote: View Post

      Internal growth is the main form of improvement this team can look forward to.

      Raps have a 5th seed team that was 5 wins away from tying for the first seed. That first seed is made up of mostly vets, have been together for a while (except Lowry and Tucker but they are vets and know how to adapt), and have no way to way to improve other than through a big trade. Heat are basically all-in at this point.

      Raps have two all stars that are 27 and took big steps this season, a guy in Barnes that has the potential to be a higher IQ version of Siakam (basically All NBA good), Trent Jr. who is a dynamic scorer and Precious who has a lot of raw ability.

      They don't have to worry about competing for a title next season either, it's going to be at least another season of development before these guys start hitting their stride.
      Uh oh.
      Did you just include Gary in there?

      Seriously, we are all witnessing Jordan Poole's emergence.
      Gary can be our Poole.
      With defense.

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      • saints91 wrote: View Post

        I originally thought you said they had value as sign and trade options, but I get what you are saying. Sign them to 1 year contracts, and then move them when they are eligible in a larger trade. You basically keep that cap space alive by doing that.

        Maybe we can bolster the bench with the mid-level exception.
        Yeah, essentially move them as cap ballast, whether it's in a sign and trade or later in the year. Doubt there's much value to be gained trying to trade them as players. That's why it will be key to keep their term down, ideally to one year, or unguaranteed salary later. It means overpaying in the short term though. Doubt we can afford to take that approach with both, let alone do it with both and also add an MLE guy. But again, if you aren't offering term with your MLE (and generally those are the worst value contracts in the league), hard to get the cream of the MLE crop.
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        • DanH wrote: View Post

          Yeah, essentially move them as cap ballast, whether it's in a sign and trade or later in the year. Doubt there's much value to be gained trying to trade them as players. That's why it will be key to keep their term down, ideally to one year, or unguaranteed salary later. It means overpaying in the short term though. Doubt we can afford to take that approach with both, let alone do it with both and also add an MLE guy. But again, if you aren't offering term with your MLE (and generally those are the worst value contracts in the league), hard to get the cream of the MLE crop.
          is there any way to get NAW from the jazz

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          • Kagemusha wrote: View Post

            Uh oh.
            Did you just include Gary in there?

            Seriously, we are all witnessing Jordan Poole's emergence.
            Gary can be our Poole.
            With defense.
            Meh, the same thing happened around here when Siakam went through his struggles. When he rebounded this season, well as Trae would say, it was quiet as f#@k in this motha, LOL. Trent is no McCaw, we've already seen what the coaching staff and management see in him. And he's no Bargnani either, he actually gives a crap and plays hard on D.

            When times get tough the fans are the first to jump ship, that's nothing new or exclusive to Raptors fans. Just gotta hope he continues to develop as he did this season and comes out and proves everyone wrong like Siakam did.

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            • Kagemusha wrote: View Post

              Uh oh.
              Did you just include Gary in there?

              Seriously, we are all witnessing Jordan Poole's emergence.
              Gary can be our Poole.
              With defense.
              was it you that liked Mo Bamba? I am just trying to remember.

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              • TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post

                was it you that liked Mo Bamba? I am just trying to remember.
                I like Bamba
                but he's probably 2nd or 3rd on my list

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                • LJ2 wrote: View Post

                  Meh, the same thing happened around here when Siakam went through his struggles. When he rebounded this season, well as Trae would say, it was quiet as f#@k in this motha, LOL. Trent is no McCaw, we've already seen what the coaching staff and management see in him. And he's no Bargnani either, he actually gives a crap and plays hard on D.

                  When times get tough the fans are the first to jump ship, that's nothing new or exclusive to Raptors fans. Just gotta hope he continues to develop as he did this season and comes out and proves everyone wrong like Siakam did.
                  Some even want a GOAT-like flu game from Gary. Lol

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                  • Kagemusha wrote: View Post

                    I like Bamba
                    but he's probably 2nd or 3rd on my list
                    I was down on him but I am going to try to take a second look.

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                    • Kagemusha wrote: View Post

                      Some even want a GOAT-like flu game from Gary. Lol
                      miracles are always nice.

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                      • TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post

                        I was down on him but I am going to try to take a second look.
                        Embiid has been bullying him since his rookie season
                        Would be nice to have someone that GENUINELY hates that troll.

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                        • golden wrote: View Post

                          Damn, I missed that. Could have saved a lot of typing by just quoting your post. lol.
                          We finally thought alike! Cheers

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                          • slaw wrote: View Post

                            Well, that's intentional. Whoever is negotiating with the Russians wants silence.
                            I'm not sure there's any negotiations going on whatsoever. There's a war on, she's going to be made an example of, the new Michaels. I wouldn't be surprised if she does a year or two time actually but she she won't be free any time soon imo.

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                            • 2nd pick in the draft gets MIP? This award makes no sense to me.

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                              • planetmars wrote: View Post


                                2nd pick in the draft gets MIP? This award makes no sense to me.
                                Both Garland and morant is dumb. Top 5 picks that had really good rookie years, really good 2nd years, and just progressing linearly. Nobody in their first 3 years should be eligible unless coming back from a disaster of a season or something.

                                Dejointe Murray is in his 6th year, he would have been the right choice.
                                9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum

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