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  • MixxAOR
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    Bosh sacrificed the most to be fair. I can see why he felt bad. He was Ringo of the Heatles

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  • G__Deane
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    S.R. wrote: View Post
    Lebron walking out of Miami that offseason was one of his smartest moves. In hindsight, he left nothing on the table but two rapidly declining teammates. Wade played 62 games the next season and his health and production starting declining year over year from that point on. Bosh played 44 games then 53 games and was out of the league. The Heat weren't peaking again.
    lebron has always known to get out when the gettin's good.

    Prime Wade and sidekick Bosh ready to team up after the Celtics showed the way? He's in
    Kyrie and klove .... back to Cleveland
    The Brow available .... off to la la land

    Forever number 2 .....

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  • S.R.
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    Lebron walking out of Miami that offseason was one of his smartest moves. In hindsight, he left nothing on the table but two rapidly declining teammates. Wade played 62 games the next season and his health and production starting declining year over year from that point on. Bosh played 44 games then 53 games and was out of the league. The Heat weren't peaking again.

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  • G__Deane
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    guyroch wrote: View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQxrS6LScJQ

    Chris Bosh felt hurt when Lebron left ? The guy did the same thing to his Raptor team mates .
    bron hated more in Miami after 2 chips, Bosh still mainly liked in Toronto after nothing but loyalty

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  • guyroch
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQxrS6LScJQ

    Chris Bosh felt hurt when Lebron left ? The guy did the same thing to his Raptor team mates ...
    Also about Heat culture ? Last series against the Spurs the Heat lost by an avg of 18 pts in
    last 3 games and Bosh avg 11 points a game .. Lebron left cause one of his big 3 played like
    an average big man ..
    Last edited by guyroch; Thu Oct 15, 2020, 11:41 AM.

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  • planetmars
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    Report: Hawks hire Landry Fields as assistant general manager
    https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article...neral-manager/

    He was the GM of the Spur's G-League team. Had no idea he was doing front office work like that. Good for him.

    It's too bad he got the yips after he got hurt and never recovered.

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  • GOLDBLUM
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    Ebonhawke wrote: View Post
    Travis Kelce (Kansas City Chiefs) has changed his hairstyle and gone from a full beard to a goatee - no longer JV's doppleganger



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  • Ebonhawke
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    Travis Kelce (Kansas City Chiefs) has changed his hairstyle and gone from a full beard to a goatee - no longer JV's doppleganger

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  • G__Deane
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    Too lazy to look up the Everything Danny Green thread so I'll plunk this here. Our boy DG just got engaged. It's on TMZ so must be true:

    https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/15/nba-d...ngeles-lakers/

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  • guyroch
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    planetmars wrote: View Post

    Yeah I heard some of that podcast as well. Only one of the guys picked Lowry first.. the other two (including Bill) would have taken him second after Aldridge. Lowry's issue was that he wasn't that great early on in his career. The first 8-9 years weren't star caliber years at all. But he made up for it in his later years. And the championship really helps.

    I still think we should have taken Roy even though he only played about 4-5 years. He and Bosh together would have been so much fun.

    I was hoping for Roy or Gay. Bargnani was a bad pick even before hindsight.

    They did talk about Rudy Gay and didn't mention how the Raptors season took off after Rudy Gay was traded … They did mention how the Grizz had
    their best success after trading Rudy Gay .



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  • planetmars
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    guyroch wrote: View Post
    Bill Simmons had the re-draftables draft of class of 2006 and Lowry came in 1st . How ironic is the Raptors did have the 1st overall pick but picked Bargnani .
    Yeah I heard some of that podcast as well. Only one of the guys picked Lowry first.. the other two (including Bill) would have taken him second after Aldridge. Lowry's issue was that he wasn't that great early on in his career. The first 8-9 years weren't star caliber years at all. But he made up for it in his later years. And the championship really helps.

    I still think we should have taken Roy even though he only played about 4-5 years. He and Bosh together would have been so much fun.

    I was hoping for Roy or Gay. Bargnani was a bad pick even before hindsight.

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  • guyroch
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    Bill Simmons had the re-draftables draft of class of 2006 and Lowry came in 1st . How ironic is the Raptors did have the 1st overall pick but picked Bargnani .

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  • G__Deane
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    golden wrote: View Post
    ^^^ It's satisfying to hear these former Raptors (e.g. Bosh, T-Mac, Carter) have to squirm a bit to explain how could they possibly leave such a Utopian NBA city and why they weren't good enough to get it done here.

    Winning cures all - Toronto has been validated and vindicated. Carter, Bosh, T-Mac, Damon, etc...... not so much.
    Well, Bosh won it all the dirty way so I doubt he feels too bad he left at all since he knew he couldn't accomplish anything here as the Man anyways. T-Mac took his shot with Yao.

    quitter-carter never did Jack after he left here except collect pay cheques ....
    Last edited by G__Deane; Sat May 23, 2020, 09:38 PM.

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  • golden
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    ^^^ It's satisfying to hear these former Raptors (e.g. Bosh, T-Mac, Carter) have to squirm a bit to explain how could they possibly leave such a Utopian NBA city and why they weren't good enough to get it done here.

    Winning cures all - Toronto has been validated and vindicated. Carter, Bosh, T-Mac, Damon, etc...... not so much.

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  • G__Deane
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    You all know my unconditional love for vince quitter-carter Vince Carter tells all kind of stories, some are even true.

    https://torontosun.com/sports/basket...-are-even-true


    The contradictions of Vince Carter are varied and many and often they grow over time.

    The way Pinocchio’s nose tended to grow.

    Ask Carter the same question on Monday and Tuesday and the answers could well be as different as the days. Ask him again on Thursday, you’re likely to get same story, different version.

    And now, as the NBA waits to return this summer, as Carter’s career is at an end after 24 years and his time in Toronto seems so very long ago — even longer considering the Raptors’ NBA championship last June — the celebration of Vinsanity’s wonderful career has been rampant.

    His story was told by E60, the fine ESPN show, the feature done by Jeremy Schaap, one of the best in the business. Carter appeared not long after that on the Say What You Need To Say podcast, hosted by former NBA players Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson. He was open and relaxed and told stories. Some of them true. Some only partially true. Some of them his truth. Some basically false.

    In his conversation with Barnes and Jackson, he all but twisted how his time with the Raptors came to an end in 2005. He didn’t say anything about quitting on the team, something he admitted to legendary Georgetown coach John Thompson many years ago. He didn’t say anything about asking to be traded. He basically blamed his departure from Toronto on the notion that the Raptors wanted Chris Bosh to be the star of the team.

    Carter was already the star of the team. The Raptors drafted a skinny, gangly Bosh, hoping he would be a complementary player at the time. It took Bosh some time to grow into himself. No one at the time was saying the team was being built around Bosh.

    But Carter is saying that now.

    “Chris Bosh came in and things start to change,” said Carter. “They wanted Chris to be the franchise player. It’s a business. I get it …

    “My whole things was, if you want to move to Chris Bosh being the guy, that’s fine. If you don’t want me here, move me. And it just became an ugly situation. Get rid of the problem if I’m the problem. They made it look like I don’t want to be here.”

    Carter also told two different versions of the famous Game 7 college graduation shot he took against the Philadelphia 76ers. His shot, unlike the game-changer made by Kawhi Leonard last year, hit the rim, bounced up, and didn’t bounce in his favour.

    In one interview, Carter admitted his legs were tired for Game 7 after flying to North Carolina that morning. In another, he said that the media said his legs were tired.

    Carter said he played well in Game 7. He averaged 30 points in the first six games of the series, shooting 49% from the field. In Game 7, he was 6-for-18, 33% shooting, 0-for-3 from three against the Sixers. That, he said, was playing well.

    The truth, forever pliable, according to Vince.

    That was the last playoff game Carter played for Toronto and one of the oddities of his NBA career was how few times he either played or mattered in the playoffs: He played 24 NBA seasons and in a league where making the playoffs is basically assumed, he missed the post-season 13 different times, starting just 66 games.

    Those who say Carter made the Raptors in the early years are only partially correct. After the Game 7 shot on graduation day — and to this day, I wonder: Why not graduate in the summer or the fall, rather than on the morning of Game 7, traveling in Larry Tanenbaum’s plane. That question has rarely been asked — the Raptors went 15 years before winning a playoff round. So whatever Carter may have built in his time in Toronto — the growth of Canadian basketball not withstanding — the reality grows more sentimental over time.

    Carter became an enemy of sorts when he was dealt to New Jersey. He could have been, or should have been, one of the great, great athletes in Toronto and Canadian history. He should have been a figure for the ages.

    On most of his returns to Toronto, he was vigorously booed as an out-of-town player. That went on for years. It wasn’t until the Raptors chose to honour Carter with a video tribute in 2014, while playing for Memphis, that everything changed. It started with a standing ovation. Now, some want to build statues of him and want his jersey up in the rafters at Scotiabank Arena.

    And if there’s a section to honour players who quit on their teams and left them in disrepair, I’m all in favour of it.

    “I took lumps for nine to 10 years,” said Carter on the podcast, talking about the media and fans.

    “I thought: One of these days, people will understand how it took place … They said he doesn’t love the game. You’re telling me that. That’s the one thing I can’t handle.”

    From his relationship with cousin Tracy McGrady, his rise and fall in Toronto, his mom’s interference with the Raptors, Carter blames the media for fudging the truth.

    And this is perfect Carter. What does he want to do now that his career is over? He wants to work in the media.

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