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Fuchan wrote: View Post
Heat are 5-1. Winning in the only stat that matters to Kyle
I was his biggest supporter here most know that, but I also can call a spade a spade. Look: Kyle is still an elite basketball player. The Miami heat are arguably the best team in the league right now. BUT, they are thriving because Kyle is the keys to turn on the engine, which has Jimmy and bam, and herro taking a leap. 36 year old Kyle lowry needs to be surrounded by elite scorers to make it work, because his individual shot creation is long past its best before date.
Both can be true, they're not mutually exclusive.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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DeRozan is off to a fast start of the season !!! All those people in the media slamming the signing .. He went to Pops University and I think he is a better player for being a Spur for 3 years .
DeRozan 37 , 37 and 32 points in last 3 games .. He is earning every penny of the salary all experts thought was too much . So happy for the guy
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The Claw Reborn wrote: View Post^^^ Oh yes he is putting up great numbers in the regular season…definitely something to acknowledge but we have seen this before.
So hold your horses, judge him when it matters most.To be the champs you got to beat the champs
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bertarapsfan wrote: View Post
Still very impressive what he is doing. Spurs helped him become a better passer and had him facilitate the offense more but think they took away his "go drop 35 attitude". It pretty crazy that he played a different way for 3 season goes back to a true SG and looks like 2016 demar again
As Kyle lowry once said "its them who gotta adjust to us"9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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The Claw Reborn wrote: View Post^^^ Oh yes he is putting up great numbers in the regular season…definitely something to acknowledge but we have seen this before.
So hold your horses, judge him when it matters most.
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guyroch wrote: View Post
?? He has a 22 points average in his playoff career and a 21.3 season average ..
but a good Playoffs numbers comparison per 100 possessions below
Code:Player From To FG 3P 2P FT TRB AST STL BLK TOV PTS ORtg DRtg Jimmy Butler 2012 2021 .442 .346 .474 .836 8.0 5.9 2.2 0.7 2.6 25.3 117 109 DeMar DeRozan 2014 2019 .418 .233 .438 .851 6.5 5.0 1.5 0.3 3.2 30.8 103 113
Generated 11/4/2021.
Code:Player PER TS FTr TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% WS WS/48 OBPM DBPM BPM VORP Jimmy Butler 19.0 .563 .459 8.8 19.2 2.2 1.3 10.3 21.9 9.6 .153 2.8 1.4 4.2 4.7 DeMar DeRozan 16.6 .503 .364 7.3 18.0 1.5 0.5 9.5 29.8 2.3 .052 1.1 -1.0 0.1 1.1
Generated 11/4/2021.
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The Claw Reborn wrote: View Post
PPG does not give you and Puffer a good picture
but a good Playoffs numbers comparison per 100 possessions below
Code:Player From To FG 3P 2P FT TRB AST STL BLK TOV PTS ORtg DRtg Jimmy Butler 2012 2021 .442 .346 .474 .836 8.0 5.9 2.2 0.7 2.6 25.3 117 109 DeMar DeRozan 2014 2019 .418 .233 .438 .851 6.5 5.0 1.5 0.3 3.2 30.8 103 113
Generated 11/4/2021.
Code:Player PER TS FTr TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% WS WS/48 OBPM DBPM BPM VORP Jimmy Butler 19.0 .563 .459 8.8 19.2 2.2 1.3 10.3 21.9 9.6 .153 2.8 1.4 4.2 4.7 DeMar DeRozan 16.6 .503 .364 7.3 18.0 1.5 0.5 9.5 29.8 2.3 .052 1.1 -1.0 0.1 1.1
Generated 11/4/2021.
We can agree that DeRozan as the number 1 scoring option in a playoff run isn't a receipt for success but did he ever have a player like Zach Lavine
as a team mate ? Your stats are all well researched ( although why again is he compared to Butler )
Can we agree that maybe DeRozan maybe not the same player he used to and maybe has grown .
I was just giving him some props .. After a summer of media ragging on him for being paid too much . He is averaging 27 points a game the same avg as JJ Morrant who the league is gushing over right now ..
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