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Code:Rk Player Pos Tm TS%V 1 Seth Curry SG PHI .758 2 Rudy Gobert C UTA .754 3 Richaun Holmes C SAC .735 4 JaVale McGee C PHO .721 5 Jarrett Allen C CLE .716 6 Kemba Walker PG NYK .683 7 LaMarcus Aldridge C BRK .682 8 Nikola Jokic C DEN .681 9 Carmelo Anthony PF LAL .679 10 Eric Gordon SG HOU .669 11 Montrezl Harrell C WAS .669 12 Domantas Sabonis C IND .664 13 Kevin Durant PF BRK .663 14 John Collins PF ATL .661 15 Karl-Anthony Towns C MIN .656 16 Mike Conley PG UTA .651 17 Mikal Bridges SF PHO .649 18 Anfernee Simons SG POR .649 19 Norman Powell SF POR .644 20 Deandre Ayton C PHO .642 21 Harrison Barnes PF SAC .639 22 Georges Niang PF PHI .639 23 Myles Turner C IND .638 24 Nassir Little SF POR .634 25 Jakob Poeltl C SAS .632 26 RJ Barrett SF NYK .631 27 Mo Bamba C ORL .627 28 Buddy Hield SG SAC .627 29 Jimmy Butler SF MIA .622 30 Pat Connaughton SG MIL .622 31 Giannis Antetokounmpo PF MIL .621 32 Damion Lee SG GSW .620 33 P.J. Washington PF CHO .617 34 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope SG WAS .616 35 Cody Martin SF CHO .616 36 Ja Morant PG MEM .616 37 Wendell Carter Jr. C ORL .614 38 Zach LaVine SG CHI .614 39 Desmond Bane SF MEM .611 40 Gordon Hayward SF CHO .611 41 Luke Kennard SG LAC .611 42 Franz Wagner SF ORL .611 43 Alex Caruso PG CHI .609 44 Dwight Powell C DAL .609 45 Bogdan Bogdanovic SG ATL .606 46 Jeremy Lamb SF IND .606 47 Tobias Harris PF PHI .605 48 Trey Lyles PF DET .604 49 Stephen Curry PG GSW .602 50 Paul George SF LAC .602 51 Steven Adams C MEM .601 52 Jaylen Brown SF BOS .598 53 Cole Anthony PG ORL .596 54 Patty Mills PG BRK .594 55 Jonas Valanciunas C NOP .593 56 Draymond Green PF GSW .591 57 Aaron Gordon PF DEN .590 58 Bam Adebayo C MIA .589 59 Miles Bridges PF CHO .589 60 Jusuf Nurkic C POR .589 61 Furkan Korkmaz SG PHI .588 62 Cam Reddish SF ATL .588 63 Bojan Bogdanovic PF UTA .586 64 Chris Paul PG PHO .586 65 Scottie Barnes PF TOR .585 66 Ivica Zubac C LAC .582 67 DeMar DeRozan SF CHI .580 68 Tyler Herro SG MIA .578 69 Tyrese Maxey PG PHI .577 70 Joel Embiid C PHI .576 71 James Harden PG BRK .569 72 Alec Burks SG NYK .568 73 Terrence Ross SG ORL .568 74 Grayson Allen SG MIL .564 75 LeBron James SF LAL .564 76 Naz Reid C MIN .564 77 Christian Wood C HOU .562 78 Evan Fournier SG NYK .561 79 Derrick Rose PG NYK .561 80 Clint Capela C ATL .559 81 Kelly Olynyk C DET .559 82 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander PG OKC .558 83 Isaiah Stewart C DET .558 84 George Hill SG MIL .557 85 CJ McCollum SG POR .557 86 Al Horford C BOS .555 87 Lonzo Ball PG CHI .554 88 Kent Bazemore SF LAL .551 89 Spencer Dinwiddie PG WAS .551 90 Tim Hardaway Jr. SG DAL .551 91 Kyle Lowry PG MIA .551 92 Evan Mobley PF CLE .551 93 Monte Morris PG DEN .551 94 Malcolm Brogdon PG IND .550 95 Jalen Brunson PG DAL .550 96 Anthony Davis C LAL .549 97 Will Barton SG DEN .547 98 Chris Duarte SG IND .547 99 Andrew Wiggins SF GSW .547 100 LaMelo Ball PG CHO .543 101 Justin Holiday SF IND .543 102 Darius Garland PG CLE .542 103 Julius Randle PF NYK .542 104 Alperen Sengun C HOU .541 105 Collin Sexton SG CLE .540 106 Jeff Green C DEN .538 107 Brandon Ingram SF NOP .536 108 Donovan Mitchell SG UTA .536 109 Lonnie Walker SG SAS .534 110 Kelly Oubre Jr. SF CHO .533 111 Derrick White SG SAS .532 112 Trae Young PG ATL .529 113 Duncan Robinson SG MIA .528 114 Khris Middleton SF MIL .527 115 DeAnthony Melton SG MEM .526 116 Markieff Morris PF MIA .526 117 Daniel Theis C HOU .525 118 OG Anunoby SF TOR .519 119 JaeSean Tate SF HOU .518 120 Fred VanVleet PG TOR .517 121 Dennis Schroder SG BOS .516 122 Kyle Kuzma PF WAS .513 123 Devonte Graham PG NOP .512 124 Tyrese Haliburton SG SAC .510 125 Raul Neto PG WAS .509 126 Reggie Bullock SF DAL .508 127 Devin Vassell SF SAS .508 128 Luka Doncic PG DAL .507 129 Josh Jackson SF DET .507 130 Gary Trent Jr. SG TOR .505 131 Joe Harris SF BRK .502 132 Jerami Grant PF DET .501 133 Jae Crowder PF PHO .499 134 Dejounte Murray PG SAS .499 135 Kevin Porter Jr. PG HOU .499 136 Anthony Edwards SG MIN .497 137 Nicolas Batum PF LAC .496 138 Devin Booker SG PHO .495 139 Josh Giddey SG OKC .495 140 Cory Joseph PG DET .495 141 Malik Monk SG LAL .495 142 Mason Plumlee C CHO .495 143 T.J. McConnell PG IND .493 144 Ricky Rubio PG CLE .489 145 Russell Westbrook PG LAL .485 146 Jalen Green SG HOU .484 147 Keldon Johnson SF SAS .484 148 Lauri Markkanen PF CLE .483 149 Kevin Love PF CLE .481 150 Jayson Tatum SF BOS .479 151 Jaren Jackson Jr. PF MEM .478 152 Jordan Nwora SF MIL .475 153 Luguentz Dort SF OKC .474 154 Jordan Poole SG GSW .474 155 Saddiq Bey SF DET .471 156 Kenrich Williams SF OKC .470 157 Bradley Beal SG WAS .468 158 Malik Beasley SG MIN .468 159 DeAndre Hunter SF ATL .465 160 Nikola Vucevic C CHI .465 161 R.J. Hampton SG ORL .463 162 Damian Lillard PG POR .461 163 Darius Bazley PF OKC .458 164 Terance Mann SF LAC .455 165 DAngelo Russell PG MIN .455 166 Kyle Anderson PF MEM .452 167 Davion Mitchell PG SAC .441 168 Jalen Suggs PG ORL .439 169 Eric Bledsoe PG LAC .436 170 Nickeil Alexander-Walker SG NOP .433 171 Cameron Johnson PF PHO .433 172 Jordan Clarkson SG UTA .431 173 Dorian Finney-Smith PF DAL .425 174 DeAaron Fox PG SAC .425 175 Marcus Smart PG BOS .425 176 Michael Porter Jr. SF DEN .414 177 Frank Jackson PG DET .411 178 Reggie Jackson SG LAC .409 179 Immanuel Quickley PG NYK .406 180 Chris Boucher PF TOR .405 181 Ish Smith PG CHO .401 182 Kristaps Porzingis PF DAL .397 183 Precious Achiuwa C TOR .388 184 Killian Hayes PG DET .380 185 Kevin Huerter SG ATL .338
Generated 11/3/2021.
Scottie is no. 65
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Kagemusha wrote: View Post
Kudos to Nurse for implementing this defensive method. I think he stole a trick or two from Kawhi as well. That fun guy not only brought us a chip, he also influenced us in many ways.
The league changes in officiating also helps us on defense so far.
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LJ2 wrote: View Post
That's exactly what I'm talking about. The entire Raptors approach seems focused on generating additional shots as a way to get an advantage. My goodness once our non shooters learn to shoot we will lay waste to the NBA. Okay I might be getting carried away....but I'm excited.
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golden wrote: View Post
The question is if it's a sustainable strategy.... because there is an potential flaw on largely relying on turnovers and OREBs as a way for your team to win in the margins: the success of that approach can be largely out of your control. If the opposition coach decides to make taking care of the ball, boxing out, gang rebounding and getting back in transition a top priority, then those are all coachable problems that can be corrected.
You can already see this approach catching teams off guard in the regular season, but if you have to play the same team back-to-back, they'll remember how they got punched in the mouth and play harder & smarter the next time. Playoffs could really expose that strategy, so you still need super-talented guys who can get buckets (i.e. eFG%) in the half-court.
2. Opposition coaches will adjust. How? Maybe?
I'm sure they "encourage" players not to turn the ball over anyways.
You may have to change strategy all together. You dump the ball in the middle to say Sabonis -too many busy hands all over. What else? I guess more contested 3 pointers.
Box out & gang rebound. OK -but no fast breaks for you either.
Get back in transition. -Guess who wins a fast break race between say Gobert & Achiuva? Randle & Barnes? Embiid & Birch? See where this is going? Especially when you consider To can roll out 10-12 guys. There is no chance Gobert or Randle or Embiid can sustain that pace for 35 mins. Sure those guys will have an edge on offense for a while, but there is a price to be paid.
We have a small number of solid offensive players that happened to be good on D too (Siakam when back, OG, FVV, Barnes, Trent). Rest -cause chaos on D with busy hands, steals, OR, fast break. When you get tired -take a break.
Somebody earlier mention "Mr fun guy" - def a good pattern to follow on D
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big boi wrote: View Post
Getting down in to a defensive stance is defense 101, you can't move backwards or side to side effectively otherwise, you can't keep the opponent in front of you - you can't play defense
If it's that simple, why isn't every team successful on defense?
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Raps won the FG attempt stat again in their last game against Washington (88-78 for the good guys). Washington won the rebound battle though. I wonder if Nurse would experiment with both Achiuwa and Birch in the line up in small stints to see if there is a worthwhile impact on rebounds. Doubt it with both Scottie and Siakam returning soon, but it's early in the season so a good time to try these things out.
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I think this is the only thread that is kind of related. This is not a new trend but I feel like Raptors are attempting a lot of more long twos. This is just eye test for now. But I feel like a lot more players are given a green light to shoot long twos.
Only one thing matters: We The Champs.
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MixxAOR wrote: View PostI think this is the only thread that is kind of related. This is not a new trend but I feel like Raptors are attempting a lot of more long twos. This is just eye test for now. But I feel like a lot more players are given a green light to shoot long twos.
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Raps won the FG attempt battle again (TOR 87 - BRK 79), but lost the rebounding and turnover stats. Mostly just came down to not being able to keep Brooklyn's FG% down.
Chalk it up to Siakam's return throwing guys off a bit? Alvin mentioned a couple times during the game that the defense looked off and guys were either slow rotating or not rotation at all.
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