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  • Yuri Gagarin
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    DanH wrote: View Post

    Could you dig this up for me, by the way? I dug though my posts from the month or so after he deadline and every post I could find on the topic was saying that the offers for Fred were garbage and the opportunity cost of not trading him then was basically zero.
    Heres your simple time line. When he was worth something u had a crush on him and wanted him to stay. Deadline came and went you said no one wants an expiring (same time we gave a first and two seconds for one). Then he walked. Good job - you got hosed

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  • saints91
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    DanH wrote: View Post

    I mean you know my position on this, that we were taking Koloko at 20, and that the trade for Jak was about the next 4 years, not the performance from this core at the end of the year.
    Maybe not Koloko but they had a lot of players in the same tier as Koloko (at 20) and he dropped. He may not have been their #1 option on that list, but he was the one that fell.

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  • DanH
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    MACK11 wrote: View Post
    So why the hell did they pick up his option? He was a walking corpse last year and they keep him for 8M?
    Salary matching potential in trades. They are over the cap and used the MLE and BAE in full anyway.

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  • MACK11
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    So why the hell did they pick up his option? He was a walking corpse last year and they keep him for 8M?

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  • DanH
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    golden wrote: View Post

    People are focusing on the trade deadline, which came back to roost, but the other big problem is that we kept betting FRPs to give the core help to evaluate them fairly. A lot of people knew years ago that a Fred/OG/Pascal core wasn't getting you anywhere except the middle.
    I mean you know my position on this, that we were taking Koloko at 20, and that the trade for Jak was about the next 4 years, not the performance from this core at the end of the year.

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  • golden
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    DanH wrote: View Post

    Could you dig this up for me, by the way? I dug though my posts from the month or so after he deadline and every post I could find on the topic was saying that the offers for Fred were garbage and the opportunity cost of not trading him then was basically zero.
    People are focusing on the trade deadline, which came back to roost, but the other big problem is that we kept betting FRPs to give the core help to evaluate them fairly. A lot of people knew years ago that a Fred/OG/Pascal core wasn't getting you anywhere except the middle.

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  • DanH
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    Yuri Gagarin wrote: View Post

    Pretty sure you said its fine there will be just as much opportunity for fred in the summer
    Could you dig this up for me, by the way? I dug though my posts from the month or so after he deadline and every post I could find on the topic was saying that the offers for Fred were garbage and the opportunity cost of not trading him then was basically zero.

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  • DanH
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    G____Deane wrote: View Post

    So that's what Masai meant, "the opportunity to get zero will still be there in the Summer"?
    No, as I've been exceedingly clear about, Masa was talking about the guys they received real offers for, OG and Pascal.

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  • G____Deane
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    DanH wrote: View Post

    The value available at the deadline (seemingly essentially zero based on the reports) was very much what we got.
    So that's what Masai meant, "the opportunity to get zero will still be there in the Summer"?

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  • DanH
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    Yuri Gagarin wrote: View Post

    Pretty sure you said its fine there will be just as much opportunity for fred in the summer
    The value available at the deadline (seemingly essentially zero based on the reports) was very much what we got.

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  • The Claw Reborn
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    Yuri Gagarin wrote: View Post

    Pretty sure you said its fine there will be just as much opportunity for fred in the summer

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  • Yuri Gagarin
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    DanH wrote: View Post

    I haven't said anything about that. I just said the deals worth taking at the deadline were the offers for OG and Pascal, which anyone could have told you heading into the deadline.
    Pretty sure you said its fine there will be just as much opportunity for fred in the summer

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  • DanH
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    Yuri Gagarin wrote: View Post

    Dude quit trying to make it like fred wasnt a fuk up. OG and Pascal couldnt walk. I told you almost two years ago freds value wont be higher. It was a fk up plain and simple
    I haven't said anything about that. I just said the deals worth taking at the deadline were the offers for OG and Pascal, which anyone could have told you heading into the deadline.

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  • The Claw Reborn
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    Yuri Gagarin wrote: View Post

    Dude quit trying to make it like fred wasnt a fuk up. OG and Pascal couldnt walk. I told you almost two years ago freds value wont be higher. It was a fk up plain and simple

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  • Yuri Gagarin
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    DanH wrote: View Post

    Uhhh, there were sooooo many OG rumours.
    Dude quit trying to make it like fred wasnt a fuk up. OG and Pascal couldnt walk. I told you almost two years ago freds value wont be higher. It was a fk up plain and simple

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