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  • DanH
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    Kagemusha wrote: View Post

    Lol
    this has evolved from just a simple question of who's the better defender.

    Anyway, it doesn't matter even if a player can guard 1-5, question is how effective he is guarding 1 -5.
    Wiggins locked down Tatum in the Finals.
    Can OG do that? i doubt it.
    OG is heavier and slower.
    He is stronger, yes. But the Tatums and the Lukas don't operate in the post where that strength is needed.
    The answer is, yes, he can do it, assuming the same conditions. OG has always been incredible defending on the perimeter.

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  • chris
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post

    Yeah, miss me with an entire summer of the media circle jerking over how Boston hangs another banner, they've been so spoiled in this century its stupid. I'd rather hear draymond gloat all year.

    Anyway, Milwaukee is still the measuring stick. I don't think Philly and Miami are as good next year. BK is a massive question mark. You gotta think Toronto is aiming for 50 wins and a top 4 seed.
    agree milwaukee would have been in the finals were it not for middleton's injury and are still the best in the east.

    i do think boston might have the best regular season record next season though. they were .500 two-thirds of they way through this season, then started winning at a 67 win clip.

    and i think they're closer to the team that finished the season than the .500 team that started it

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  • Kagemusha
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post

    Of course it's their system and gravity. Harrison Barnes is still cashing cheques off his title in GS. KD swooped in and collected some finals mvps.

    The best job in the nba for increasing your reputation is playing starting wing with steph, klay and dray.
    Kerr will go down as one of the best coaches all time.
    They can probably win another 1 or 2.

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  • The Claw Reborn
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    Kagemusha wrote: View Post

    Siakam would actually fit like a glue in GSW.
    We would've been smashing our heads by now if that trade materialized.
    Wiggins is awesome, but he found his perfect team in the Warriors.
    He will not be this successful elsewhere.

    Someone pointed out that the reason Wigs had success in offence was due to Steph and Klay.
    Partly, yes. But mostly coz of their system.
    The way players are in constant motion, the way the ball moves around a lot.

    And.. Klay is not washed. He just missed a lot of time.
    It was a sneaky comment from me but i do agree, Pascal would have gotten his 2nd ring.

    at the same time, Raptors would have received significant assets

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  • KeonClark
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    Kagemusha wrote: View Post

    Siakam would actually fit like a glue in GSW.
    We would've been smashing our heads by now if that trade materialized.
    Wiggins is awesome, but he found his perfect team in the Warriors.
    He will not be this successful elsewhere.

    Someone pointed out that the reason Wigs had success in offence was due to Steph and Klay.
    Partly, yes. But mostly coz of their system.
    The way players are in constant motion, the way the ball moves around a lot.
    Of course it's their system and gravity. Harrison Barnes is still cashing cheques off his title in GS. KD swooped in and collected some finals mvps.

    The best job in the nba for increasing your reputation is playing starting wing with steph, klay and dray.

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  • Kagemusha
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    The Claw Reborn wrote: View Post
    Hot damn like every blasphemy and slander were all forgotten against some of those Warriors players.

    Hot takes with 5 minutes expiry date for sure. Shut the *** Up already.

    LOL

    Anyhooo…

    Amazing performance by arguably one of the greatest generational talent and game changer player. Steph deserved that FMVP.

    Maple Jordan kudos to him. I once suggested a trade for him/ Kuminga/ Moody and Wiseman for Siakam. Warriors would have regretted it

    What a comeback from two devastating injuries by Klay

    Draymond is a special player, the stat sheet may not show it night in and night out but those intangibles are so impactful.

    Poole’s contribution while Steph would take his short rests cannot be taken for granted

    Steve Kerr lucky bastard.

    Congrats Dubs !
    Siakam would actually fit like a glue in GSW.
    We would've been smashing our heads by now if that trade materialized.
    Wiggins is awesome, but he found his perfect team in the Warriors.
    He will not be this successful elsewhere.

    Someone pointed out that the reason Wigs had success in offence was due to Steph and Klay.
    Partly, yes. But mostly coz of their system.
    The way players are in constant motion, the way the ball moves around a lot.

    And.. Klay is not washed. He just missed a lot of time.

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  • KeonClark
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    Hotshot wrote: View Post

    Magic indeed was robbed, however he was already 31 years old when forced to retire and back than 31 was 31.

    Not to mention the emergence of Michael Jordan & the Bulls defeating the Lakers in 5 games in the finals was pretty much almost the last nail in the coffin for that Lakers dynasty and nothing was going to stop the Chicago Bulls one (after almost a decade of dominance).



    Yeah his run at the title was maybe done regardless, but he still had some more all nbas and totals to stack up. He was 9 years consecutive 1st team the year he retired. He was nowhere near washed.

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  • KeonClark
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    chris wrote: View Post

    man i can tell you were rooting for the celtics because although i hate the logo, this particular boston team more is up there with the 97-98 jazzers and bad boy pistons as the teams i have hated the most.

    i have never seen a team fucking flop and lie cheat and cry as much as this celtics team. fucking smart is on another level with that shit. grant williams derick white jaylen brown all also bad for it.

    robert willliams and al horford are the only moderately likeable players on that team
    Yeah, miss me with an entire summer of the media circle jerking over how Boston hangs another banner, they've been so spoiled in this century its stupid. I'd rather hear draymond gloat all year.

    Anyway, Milwaukee is still the measuring stick. I don't think Philly and Miami are as good next year. BK is a massive question mark. You gotta think Toronto is aiming for 50 wins and a top 4 seed.

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  • planetmars
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    Steph and Larry are pretty close. Larry had more all-nba's (9 vs 4). He has 3 MVP's to Steph's 2. But Steph has 4 chips in 6 final appearances. Larry has 3 in 5. Both helped change the game.

    Steph will have more seasons though and Larry had to hang 'em up early. I'll still give the nod to Larry but Steph will likely surpass him by the time he's done.

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  • Hotshot
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post

    Magic can say that. He and bird brought the game out of the stone ages. College ball was more important before he showed up.

    Magic had more titles, mvps, fmvps, 9 to 4 on 1st team all nba. Oh and he retired due to having aids at 32. Steph is 34. Magic was robbed of 5 more good seasons.

    Its fun to change rankings, but we're not there.
    Magic indeed was robbed, however he was already 31 years old when forced to retire and back than 31 was 31.

    Not to mention the emergence of Michael Jordan & the Bulls defeating the Lakers in 5 games in the finals was pretty much almost the last nail in the coffin for that Lakers dynasty and nothing was going to stop the Chicago Bulls one (after almost a decade of dominance).




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  • chris
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    and lol at trex calling klay washed after calling him the BEST shooting guard in the league for the two years he was out. he's not quite what he was but he ended up being pretty close. the playoff numbers are indistinguishable from his playoff numbers in any other year from the 2015 through 2019 run. defense was the biggest difference, but he was damn good on that end in the last two series.

    also draymond is much better than rodman, to address that convo that was going on last week. the dude is the only other player from this run whom if you took off the team they wouldn't have won. take off durant or klay or iggy or whoever and they still get at least one chip. rodman's the better rebounder and i'd call it a wash on defence, draymond is orders of magnitude better offensively.

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  • The Claw Reborn
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    Hot damn like every blasphemy and slander were all forgotten against some of those Warriors players.

    Hot takes with 5 minutes expiry date for sure. Shut the *** Up already.

    LOL

    Anyhooo…

    Amazing performance by arguably one of the greatest generational talent and game changer player. Steph deserved that FMVP.

    Maple Jordan kudos to him. I once suggested a trade for him/ Kuminga/ Moody and Wiseman for Siakam. Warriors would have regretted it

    What a comeback from two devastating injuries by Klay

    Draymond is a special player, the stat sheet may not show it night in and night out but those intangibles are so impactful.

    Poole’s contribution while Steph would take his short rests cannot be taken for granted

    Steve Kerr lucky bastard.

    Congrats Dubs !

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  • The Great One
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post

    Magic can say that. He and bird brought the game out of the stone ages. College ball was more important before he showed up.

    Magic had more titles, mvps, fmvps, 9 to 4 on 1st team all nba. Oh and he retired due to having aids at 32. Steph is 34. Magic was robbed of 5 more good seasons.

    Its fun to change rankings, but we're not there.
    You made a lot of good points. I forgot about Magic retiring early because of HIV. Curry is still in my top 10 but i'm gonna make some adjustments.

    MJ
    Wilt
    Kareem
    Russell
    LeBron
    Bird
    Magic
    Steph
    Hakeem
    Shaq

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  • chris
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    G__Deane wrote: View Post
    Wasn't the Finals result that I wanted (not a fan of dynasties, prefer new blood) but mad respect for this team and how do you not like Curry? The best pure shooter I have ever seen, the long bombs that should just be highlight stuff became nightly stuff.

    Clowning with the ring point and going to sleep stuff weren't my favourite moves though.

    Without the logo, how do you hate the Celtics? Hard working talented team without any real elite top 10 superstars and just win. I'd like the Raps to be a bit more like them in some ways. Unless you can find us a Steph Curry
    man i can tell you were rooting for the celtics because although i hate the logo, this particular boston team more is up there with the 97-98 jazzers and bad boy pistons as the teams i have hated the most.

    i have never seen a team fucking flop and lie cheat and cry as much as this celtics team. fucking smart is on another level with that shit. grant williams derick white jaylen brown all also bad for it.

    robert willliams and al horford are the only moderately likeable players on that team

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  • Jclaw
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    Congratulations to the Warriors, the first legitimate NBA Champions since the 2019 Raptors. May we spend the next few years continuing to trade it back and forth.

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