Raptors Offseason 2022

[Hotshot]

He did start the season off the bench. Remember Dragic started the first couple of games. I think it's more so to do with him having a player option and potentially walking at the end of the year. Now maybe that's good riddance if he doesn't want to be a team player.. but that can be a dicey situation to have someone like that leave without getting any value back.

And maybe we're just reading too much into this. He could be fine coming off the bench, as long has he got his 30+ minutes.. which he'd get for sure.

Trent should be our own Tyler Herro off the bench and that's the guy of his equivalent not freaking Duncan Robinson (you might as well give Sam Dekker a call again cause he too can at spurts shoot the lights out and give you nothing else).

[G__Deane]

Why does it sound like Trent would never accept a 6th man role, was something said? I mean I don't think that would be his first choice or should be as a young, productive player, but just don't recall seeing or hearing anything.

I also don't love that starting 5 for the Raps either. All good players, but too many catch and shoot guys and not enough guys that can hit a pull up off the dribble. We need more dynamic scoring.

No enough aggression at the tin either, crash boards, draw fouls. I that's the 5 they'll start with a lot but also think that's the issue with it.

[Primer]

basically yes he was an undersized 2 guard with some passing chops but again.. I wouldn't be expecting more than maybe a two way. He has a long way to go to show that he deserves a roster spot. Because a season away from the NBA is al long time and he didn't exactly kill it in Italy.

Nope, it's time for irrational optimism.

Jalen Harris is an Uber efficient scoring guard.

In 13 games with the Raptors he shot

50% FG on 5.5 attempts
47% 3pt on 2.8 attempts
78% FT on 0.7 attempts
63.2% TS

That was in 13 mpg

In his best game of the season he put up
31 pts, 6 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl
12/21 FG, 5/12 3PT, 4/4 FT

He's exactly what our bench was missing. Microwave scorer. The year off has only made him better.

Being realistic I think he definitely gets a regular contract not a 2 way. He was very good at the NBA level, 13 games is a big enough sample size to show he belongs.

[Primer]

Grange wrote an article yesterday on how the Raptors can add to the roster. He mentioned a Trent for Duncan Robinson swap. That's actually a great trade for the Raptors because unlike Trent, Robinson would have no problem coming off the bench. The Raptors can go w/ a starting 5 of Precious, Siakam, Barnes, OG and FVV. Robinson as a 6th man.

Sounds like Trent would never accept a 6th man role because he wants to prove that he's a starter and that he can be a reliable iso guy lol. Good luck with that.

Wow you are the last person I thought we be a Duncan Robinson fan. He can't defend for shit and is glued to the bench in the playoffs. He has a $90M 5 year contract.

Why would you wanna get locked into that long term?

You see how teams attack Trent on defense, imagine what they would do to Duncan who is an order of magnitude worse on defense.

Hard pass on saving Miami from paying that dogshit contract.

[The Great One]

1. Y'all act like Trent is some great defender. He's not that much better than Robinson defensively. I can see why people would think Trent is a superior defender though.

2. Robinson is a much better shooter. It's not close. I know he's struggling shooting the ball right now that's why he's not playing much. But it's one of those things. Remember when Danny Green couldn't hit a 3 in the Bucks series? from what I recall the Raptors ended up benching Green in the Bucks series. That's what's going on with Robinson right now.

Anyway, here's a snippet of the article:

But Robinson started every game for Miami in their run to the Finals two seasons ago and shot 39.7 per cent from three along the way. He had an ‘off’ year this past season, shooting just 37 per cent from three on a high volume, but the two seasons prior he knocked down 42.7 per cent of his threes on 8.4 attempts a game, which is about as good as it gets.

Robinson has four years and $74 million left on his deal. Would the Heat take Gary Trent Jr. back in a trade? The Raptors might be giving up a little defensively (though Robinson is at least a competent scheme defender, and at six-foot-eight, has good size) but they get a better shooter and cost certainty: who knows what Trent Jr. is going to be looking for in the summer of ’23 as a free agent if he has another solid or better year with the Raptors? As well, Robinson knows his role: spread the floor and cut off the ball to create space for his teammates and punish teams that over help.

The Raptors were dying for just that kind of presence against Philadelphia in the playoffs, and with Siakam, Anunoby and Barnes all comfortable putting the ball on the floor, having someone who does it only as a last resort could be a good thing.

Meanwhile, Trent Jr. wants to expand his role and prove himself as an isolation scorer, and it’s hard to see him accepting moving to the bench if that’s what the Raptors needed. In return the Heat get a growing young player in Trent Jr. on a very movable contract, his Bird Rights if they want to keep him and some salary flexibility going forward as they try to build a team around Jimmy Butler, Bam Adebayo and Kyle Lowry and their top-heavy contracts.

[The Great One]

Wow you are the last person I thought we be a Duncan Robinson fan. He can't defend for shit and is glued to the bench in the playoffs. He has a $90M 5 year contract.

He was their starting 2 guard when they made the Finals a couple of years ago. The reason he's not playing much in these playoffs is because he's struggling shooting the ball.

[Bonus Jonas]

Hard pass on Trent for Duncan

[chris]

would we get 2 firsts from miami or just 1 first and 2 seconds for taking on that robinson contract and giving up trent in this hypothetical proposal?

i need more details

[golden]

Hard pass on Trent for Duncan

Trent doesn't pass.

[Puffer]

Nope, it's time for irrational optimism.

Jalen Harris is an Uber efficient scoring guard.

In 13 games with the Raptors he shot

50% FG on 5.5 attempts
47% 3pt on 2.8 attempts
78% FT on 0.7 attempts
63.2% TS

That was in 13 mpg

In his best game of the season he put up
31 pts, 6 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl
12/21 FG, 5/12 3PT, 4/4 FT

He's exactly what our bench was missing. Microwave scorer. The year off has only made him better.

Being realistic I think he definitely gets a regular contract not a 2 way. He was very good at the NBA level, 13 games is a big enough sample size to show he belongs.

I've been waiting for a more mature and "head screwed on right" Jalen to arrive back in Toronto. I was ecstatic with his energy and his skillset. Happy to see the team sign him to a "show me" contract. People make mistakes. And can come back from them. I'd like the Raptors to give him a chance.

[The Great One]

Also want to add, i've been waiting for the Raptors to add a JJ Redick, Kyle Korver, Doug McDermott type of player for a long long time. You know a 3pt specialist? Robinson is that type of player.

[Primer]

He was their starting 2 guard when they made the Finals a couple of years ago. The reason he's not playing much in these playoffs is because he's struggling shooting the ball.

It would be very fun watching Trent destroy us for years on Miami while Duncan plays no defense and nails 2 3pt shots for us off the bench at a good %.

Miami would take that deal in a heartbeat. We'd look like freaking idiots.

[Bonus Jonas]

Also want to add, i've been waiting for the Raptors to add a JJ Redick, Kyle Korver, Doug McDermott type of player for a long long time. You know a 3pt specialist? Robinson is that type of player.

We had Kapono

[A.I]

He was their starting 2 guard when they made the Finals a couple of years ago. The reason he's not playing much in these playoffs is because he's struggling shooting the ball.

And thats a problem. When you are a specialist like that and are struggling at it, it becomes hard to justify giving you minutes.

Its going to take more than a straight swap to make that trade.

[Bonus Jonas]

For Harris, was it ever confirmed how he failed the drug policy?

Coke or what?