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TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
I mean to be fair jordan is like THE premier basketball brand shoe...
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slaw wrote: View Post
I suppose. Just not sure in what circumstance the Raps are going to be running much Flynn/Koloko pick and roll. Where would that rank on the top 100 Raptors sets/plays/actions? 974th?
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planetmars wrote: View Post
All the guys I mentioned had big impacts beyond the game too. Especially Kareem.
When they refused to serve him food at a restaurant in I believe Kentucky... he basically said nah I am not playing in the exhibition game. Obviously, this isn't about comparing struggles but Russell came before and thus he naturally really did pave the way in MANY ways. Russell Marched with King if I am not mistaken... Kareem went on and has even written about being inspired toward social justice and activism.
Each person played a big role in there own part... the job is to take the baton in the race and run your section and leave it off better than when you entered when you hand it off to the next.
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TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
Kareem yes but it started with russell especially on the basketball front in terms of truly taking a stand on certain things. And lakers fans never treated Kareem like how Boston fans treated Bill. They literally broke into his house and shat on his bed.
When they refused to serve him food at a restaurant in I believe Kentucky... he basically said nah I am not playing in the exhibition game. Obviously, this isn't about comparing struggles but Russell came before and thus he naturally really did pave the way in MANY ways. Russell Marched with King if I am not mistaken... Kareem went on and has even written about being inspired toward social justice and activism.
Each person played a big role in there own part... the job is to take the baton in the race and run your section and leave it off better than when you entered when you hand it off to the next.
When Russell marched with King, that didn't bring in new fans.
When the NBA stood with BLM and became involved in politics, many fans got turned off and started unfollowing the games.
This is why you never hear Lebron criticize China.
Playing the game in the Olympics and in other countries is how you promote the sport.
Guys like Magic, Bird and MJ brought in tons of new fans by doing that.
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Kagemusha wrote: View Post
Taking stand on things IS NOT basketball related, and not promoting the sport.
When Russell marched with King, that didn't bring in new fans.
When the NBA stood with BLM and became involved in politics, many fans got turned off and started unfollowing the games.
This is why you never hear Lebron criticize China.
Playing the game in the Olympics and in other countries is how you promote the sport.
Guys like Magic, Bird and MJ brought in tons of new fans by doing that.
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Kagemusha wrote: View Post
Taking stand on things IS NOT basketball related, and not promoting the sport.
When Russell marched with King, that didn't bring in new fans.
When the NBA stood with BLM and became involved in politics, many fans got turned off and started unfollowing the games.
This is why you never hear Lebron criticize China.
Playing the game in the Olympics and in other countries is how you promote the sport.
Guys like Magic, Bird and MJ brought in tons of new fans by doing that.
Also somethings are bigger than basketball. Lebron ... respectfully didn't know much about China.
Many fans turned off games but that isn't a reason to not take a stand for what is right. Especially when it effects the vast majority of the communities that hte players are a part of.
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saints91 wrote: View Post
I think you are missing the point. Who cares if you lose those fans... some things are more important. I think the NBA is doing just fine.
Fans watch the games, in general, to get relief from the stresses of life, to be entertained.
Taking political stands is not the way to promote the sport.
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Kagemusha wrote: View Post
Respectfully no, because political issues, like religion, are divisive and takes away the purity of the sport.
Fans watch the games, in general, to get relief from the stresses of life, to be entertained.
Taking political stands is not the way to promote the sport.
But if we are going down the road of having no political issues and other factors... Couldn't you not make the argument about things like American sports always putting the military into their games... flying jets overhead etc.. that at its core is a political statement regardless of your support for said things... if you just wanted the true "purity of sport" then take away all imagery in its totality and not pick and choose. no national anthem, no nothing just the purity of the sport and ... oh yeah no sponsorships too.
Because purity of the sport and sponsorships of any kind aren't necessarily part of the entertainment aside from the current funding of it obviously but hypothetically THAT would be the purity.
But also no something are bigger than basketball and some ppl especially those in the past have risked their careers to make stands in different ways.
As they say if you don't like that you don't like NBA basketball folks.
And before Joey says we are getting off topic...its the off season... and we are talking directly about the NBA.
If you want me to boil it down even further.. alot of stuff goes back down to the money. Look no further than the amount of money the NFL gets from the American Military.
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Kagemusha wrote: View Post
Respectfully no, because political issues, like religion, are divisive and takes away the purity of the sport.
Fans watch the games, in general, to get relief from the stresses of life, to be entertained.
Taking political stands is not the way to promote the sport.
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Kagemusha wrote: View Post
Taking stand on things IS NOT basketball related, and not promoting the sport.
When Russell marched with King, that didn't bring in new fans.
Kagemusha wrote: View PostWhen the NBA stood with BLM and became involved in politics, many fans got turned off and started unfollowing the games.
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