Raptors Offseason 2022

[DanH]

man watched the raptors season stuff and we need to trade precious, O, and flynn for some real ballers. if precious could rebound like faried i would be down. if O played like iguodala i would be down. flynn is just to fucking small i am sorry. we need a pure shooting guard real bad and it doesn’t have to be kevin durant… find the next rip hamilton

Just an astonishing position to take. Like, sure, trade Flynn for a real baller, but I doubt there's any trade market for him. Otherwise, what? No one rebounds "like Faried" in our defensive system. What exactly about Iggy's game is OG not replicating that he should be?

[grindhouse]

What exactly about Iggy's game is OG not replicating that he should be?

Basketball IQ, cutting, screening, passing

[Ebonhawke]

Magic guard Gary Harris has suffered a torn meniscus in his left knee, according to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski (Twitter link). While it’s unclear how he sustained the injury, Harris will undergo further evaluation to determine how much time he’ll miss.

[Kagemusha]

Basketball IQ, cutting, screening, passing

In short- basketball IQ

[planetmars]

Magic guard Gary Harris has suffered a torn meniscus in his left knee, according to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski (Twitter link). While it’s unclear how he sustained the injury, Harris will undergo further evaluation to determine how much time he’ll miss.

Danilo Gallinari also hurt his knee pretty bad. They will do scans but from tweets I saw it looks pretty bad.

[DanH]

Basketball IQ, cutting, screening, passing

OG is one of the better cutters on the team. His passing has improved over the past couple of seasons, but that's not really his strength and likely never will be. He's a finisher more than a playmaker, no reason to pine after a guy like Iggy when OG is actually very good at what he does (a down year in efficiency notwithstanding). He was out of his depth as a creator, which you can critique as a lack of basketball IQ but I think would be wrong in doing so, it is very hard to learn that role against NBA defences. He showed nice flashes of making the correct pass against advantages he'd create in the mid to low post or on his power drives, but it will take a lot more reps for that to develop into real playmaking, reps he likely won't get in the near future unless he ends up on a rebuilding team with few alternative sources of offence.

Meanwhile, Iguodala's playmaking is perhaps overrated in your mind? He does indeed average more assists than OG - about 50% more over the past decade or so (young Iggy was a different beast, and played a LOT of primary creator). But he also turned the ball over about 50% more as well so he's not really creating that much more than OG, and not more efficiently.

Anyway, your position is we should trade one of the few true 5 position defenders and one of our few high end catch and shoot three point shooters, that there's simply no place for him on the team, because he's not playing like Iguodala?

[Heatdreamer]

OG is one of the better cutters on the team. His passing has improved over the past couple of seasons, but that's not really his strength and likely never will be. He's a finisher more than a playmaker, no reason to pine after a guy like Iggy when OG is actually very good at what he does (a down year in efficiency notwithstanding). He was out of his depth as a creator, which you can critique as a lack of basketball IQ but I think would be wrong in doing so, it is very hard to learn that role against NBA defences. He showed nice flashes of making the correct pass against advantages he'd create in the mid to low post or on his power drives, but it will take a lot more reps for that to develop into real playmaking, reps he likely won't get in the near future unless he ends up on a rebuilding team with few alternative sources of offence.

Meanwhile, Iguodala's playmaking is perhaps overrated in your mind? He does indeed average more assists than OG - about 50% more over the past decade or so (young Iggy was a different beast, and played a LOT of primary creator). But he also turned the ball over about 50% more as well so he's not really creating that much more than OG, and not more efficiently.

Anyway, your position is we should trade one of the few true 5 position defenders and one of our few high end catch and shoot three point shooters, that there's simply no place for him on the team, because he's not playing like Iguodala?

Raptors have a solution for Gary Harris trade Trent Jr. + Flynn for Carter Jr + Cole Anthony.

Seems FVV is not going to sign that extension. For price certainty would you trade FVV for Terry Rozier. They seem to be pretty close in value. Same age , same scoring ability,

Rozier, OG, Barnes, Siakam, Carter Jr .
Anthony, xxxxx, OPJ, Young/ Boucher , Precious
Banton, Hermogomez, Koloko, Birch

Maybe the Raptors can trade Birch+ Svi + Wilson for Clarkson or Covington.

[DanH]

Raptors have a solution for Gary Harris trade Trent Jr. + Flynn for Carter Jr + Cole Anthony.

Seems FVV is not going to sign that extension. For price certainty would you trade FVV for Terry Rozier. They seem to be pretty close in value. Same age , same scoring ability,

Rozier, OG, Barnes, Siakam, Carter Jr .
Anthony, xxxxx, OPJ, Young/ Boucher , Precious
Banton, Hermogomez, Koloko, Birch

Maybe the Raptors can trade Birch+ Svi + Wilson for Clarkson or Covington.

Again. Why are the Magic trading WCJ, one of their highest value assets?

[DanH]

Also, no, I would not dramatically downgrade our back court by trading FVV for Rozier.

[The Great One]

Also, no, I would not dramatically downgrade our back court by trading FVV for Rozier.

Problem is, there are people out here who believe Rozier is better than FVV.

[The Great One]

My favorite NBA matchup. Siakam vs Draymond. Been lovin this matchup since G1 of the Finals.

[big boi]

Precious didn't look very good in recent Rico Hines Run clips. He didn't look particularly hungry either. Small sample of course, but at a time when many are suggesting he could start this year, it'd be nice to see him look better. Hopefully he's putting in the work... big year for him.

*Saw subsequent highlights and he looked much more interested and wasn't settling for 3's. Really enjoying the Raptors content in these RHR highlights

[Puffer]

Problem is, there are people out here who believe Rozier is better than FVV.

That's why they play the games. Belief is a wonderful thing. The actual results are beautiful.

[golden]

That's why they play the games. Belief is a wonderful thing. The actual results are beautiful.

Rozier is actually better at offense than FVV… especially when you consider what our sorely offense lacks, which is ‘advantage creation’. Fred is a slightly better 3pt shooter, but Rozier is more efficient overall. It’s pretty close…. if you watch the games. Defense is another matter.

[The Great One]

Was just watching the Blue Jays celebrating the 30th anniversary of the 92 team. It got me thinking, the 2019 Raptors championship team will be talk about for years and years(rightfully so) just like that team and the 93 team.

And also, why does Joe Carter not have a statue and why is his number not retired? what the hell are they waiting for? he's just the most iconic player in your franchise history.