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planetmars wrote: View Post
Maybe.. we'd have to rely more on Malachi or Dalano to get an extra ball handler on the floor when Pascal, Scottie and Fred can't play or need a rest. That's not something we did much of last year.
Knock on wood we have a healthier season then the last 2-3. Its a big reason why I have them #1 in the East since I have this feeling that the injury gods will be coming through for us this season.
Absolutely Flynn and Banton will get their chances as injuries inevitably crop up. But they likely won't be in the regular rotation until that happens.
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DanH wrote: View Post
I see no reason, outside of actual injuries (in which case you aren't going ten deep, you are just filling in the top 9 rotation you were working with) for Fred, Pascal and Barnes to ever all be on the bench at the same time.
Absolutely Flynn and Banton will get their chances as injuries inevitably crop up. But they likely won't be in the regular rotation until that happens.
So if Pascal, Fred and Scottie need more rest or days off than last year.. then we're going to have to see Dalano and Malachi play. It's not a fixed 9-10 man rotation.. we don't play hockey line ups.. but we do have guys with roles. Not everyone can handle the ball on this team. We tried that early last year and it was a failure. Now guys like Chris, Khem, Thad, Precious all hand the ball off to a handler as soon as they get it. Gary, OG and Otto can do that in bits and pieces, but again they'll need someone to play with.
We should try to get all our key starters to play around 35mpg. That will only happen if Malachi and Dalano have improved or Nurse trusts them more. It's likely why we were in on Schroeder so that we could get a vet playmaker on the roster.
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planetmars wrote: View Post
My point is that Nurse likes his ball handlers. And he likes to have at least 1 if not 2 on the floor at all times. Pascal, Fred, Scottie, Dalano, Malachi and that Dowtin kid are the only ball handlers on the team. Last year we didn't even like having OG and Gary without one.
So if Pascal, Fred and Scottie need more rest or days off than last year.. then we're going to have to see Dalano and Malachi play. It's not a fixed 9-10 man rotation.. we don't play hockey line ups.. but we do have guys with roles. Not everyone can handle the ball on this team. We tried that early last year and it was a failure. Now guys like Chris, Khem, Thad, Precious all hand the ball off to a handler as soon as they get it. Gary, OG and Otto can do that in bits and pieces, but again they'll need someone to play with.
We should try to get all our key starters to play around 35mpg. That will only happen if Malachi and Dalano have improved or Nurse trusts them more. It's likely why we were in on Schroeder so that we could get a vet playmaker on the roster.
If we get injured, yes, we will need another ball handler to enter the rotation. If healthy, though, not really.
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DanH wrote: View Post
Really not following why our key starters playing say 36 MPG would mean we need another ball handler. That would mean each of those three key guys need 12 minutes of rest bought for them. You can rest two of them at once, so those 36 minutes of rest could happen over 18 bench minutes, during which one of the three would be supporting the bench groups (with some bonus OG sometimes, and with Trent as the bench scorer). That's 30 minutes of playing your top three guys together and 18 minutes of one at a time supporting bench groups. Alternatively, you can cut down your minutes of all three guys on the floor (say, 24 minutes, 6 to start and close each half), and then you have 24 minutes to spread your 36 minutes of ball handler time across (so only 12 minutes of one ball handler, 12 minutes of two of them).
If we get injured, yes, we will need another ball handler to enter the rotation. If healthy, though, not really.
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^^ sorry hit post to quick.
Also wanted to add that having one guy out there for 12 minutes is not going to really work for Nurse. He likes having multiple options for ball handling. One of Flynn, Dalano or Downtin is going to have to play with that other guy to keep pressure off of him. Otherwise guys could just trap that one guy getting the ball out of his hands.
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planetmars wrote: View Post^^ sorry hit post to quick.
Also wanted to add that having one guy out there for 12 minutes is not going to really work for Nurse. He likes having multiple options for ball handling. One of Flynn, Dalano or Downtin is going to have to play with that other guy to keep pressure off of him. Otherwise guys could just trap that one guy getting the ball out of his hands.
If fully healthy we likely play all three of Thad, Boucher and Otto off the bench alongside Trent, though Thad's minutes or Otto's (might be a bit of a shared load there) may be less from night to night if OG is making guest appearances in bench groups. 9 deep is about right for keeping the minutes manageable for everyone. 8 deep is more likely the playoff rotation, and the 10th guys are likely only seeing the floor for injuries or missed games from the top 9.
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planetmars wrote: View Post
My point is that Nurse likes his ball handlers. And he likes to have at least 1 if not 2 on the floor at all times. Pascal, Fred, Scottie, Dalano, Malachi and that Dowtin kid are the only ball handlers on the team. Last year we didn't even like having OG and Gary without one.
So if Pascal, Fred and Scottie need more rest or days off than last year.. then we're going to have to see Dalano and Malachi play. It's not a fixed 9-10 man rotation.. we don't play hockey line ups.. but we do have guys with roles. Not everyone can handle the ball on this team. We tried that early last year and it was a failure. Now guys like Chris, Khem, Thad, Precious all hand the ball off to a handler as soon as they get it. Gary, OG and Otto can do that in bits and pieces, but again they'll need someone to play with.
We should try to get all our key starters to play around 35mpg. That will only happen if Malachi and Dalano have improved or Nurse trusts them more. It's likely why we were in on Schroeder so that we could get a vet playmaker on the roster.
The hope is that OG has continued to work on that handle... I do agree with you on the point about shroeder but i think others will come up
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planetmars wrote: View PostNot wanting to get into a debate on this topic but Trudeau is planning to lift the vaccine mandates on September 30th. So that means Kyrie (and other players that are anti-vaxx) will be able to come into Toronto next season. I guess that home court advantage is now neutralized.
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planetmars wrote: View PostNot wanting to get into a debate on this topic but Trudeau is planning to lift the vaccine mandates on September 30th. So that means Kyrie (and other players that are anti-vaxx) will be able to come into Toronto next season. I guess that home court advantage is now neutralized.
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planetmars wrote: View PostNot wanting to get into a debate on this topic but Trudeau is planning to lift the vaccine mandates on September 30th. So that means Kyrie (and other players that are anti-vaxx) will be able to come into Toronto next season. I guess that home court advantage is now neutralized.
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