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  • G__Deane wrote: View Post

    I remember too many games when they couldn't buy a bucket and that included Achiuwa. I'm OK with GTJr off the bench but still feel too many are undeervaluing him at his age.
    Contract. Season.

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    • Consider the upside of the small group is a huge sample of break even basketball including a very big sample of getting absolutely caved in to start games all year long, and I'm thinking the offence bogging down might still result in a net better outcome if the defence is there too. Meanwhile, if Scottie or Precious can be halfway a threat from the corner...
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      • slaw wrote: View Post

        Contract. Season.
        Considering what Tyler Herro just got and I don't think we can afford GTJ if he goes up another level.

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        • The Suns are losing to the Adelaide 36ers.
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          • Hotshot wrote: View Post

            Considering what Tyler Herro just got and I don't think we can afford GTJ if he goes up another level.
            Damn. 4 years $130M. That's going to change Fred's deal now, for sure.

            Heat have a number of potentially bad contracts on their books now: Herro, Robinson & Lowry. They better hope that Butler doesn't rapidly decline or get hurt.

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            • It's $120M with $10M in bonuses. Still a big amount though.

              Guys like Trent, Poole, Maxxey are all going to use that as a barometer. Thanks Pat

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              • planetmars wrote: View Post
                It's $120M with $10M in bonuses. Still a big amount though.

                Guys like Trent, Poole, Maxxey are all going to use that as a barometer. Thanks Pat
                FVV is gonna want $40M/year now. Bet on it.

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                • The Herro deal was done with an eye on the increasing cap. Likely the only reason he accepted a 4 year deal. These $30M contracts are going to be the same as $20M contracts are now.

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                  • golden wrote: View Post

                    FVV is gonna want $40M/year now. Bet on it.
                    Not unless he signs an extension. Which he still might. I guess we'll see if he wants to continue to bet on himself or not.

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                    • golden wrote: View Post

                      FVV is gonna want $40M/year now. Bet on it.
                      Bet
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                      • The Herro contract has more importance for guys like Poole cause it raised that rookie extension bar at that tier from about $100 million. Herro is 22 and FVV is 28. The biggest loser is probably RJ Barrett whose deal now looks like a huge steal for the Knicks.

                        If I had to guess, Fred ends up somewhere between Brunson and Jrue, which would be fair.

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                        • planetmars wrote: View Post

                          Not unless he signs an extension. Which he still might. I guess we'll see if he wants to continue to bet on himself or not.
                          From what I understand, his extension could only be low 30's if he signs this off-season. (Dan, help pls).

                          FVV's extension was very close to being finalized.... from reports very early in the off-season. Wonder where that deal is now? If he doesn't sign the extension, then he's going to full free agency next season and looking for a much bigger payday.

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                          • golden wrote: View Post

                            From what I understand, his extension could only be low 30's if he signs this off-season. (Dan, help pls).

                            FVV's extension was very close to being finalized.... from reports very early in the off-season. Wonder where that deal is now? If he doesn't sign the extension, then he's going to full free agency next season and looking for a much bigger payday.
                            The most he can get off an extension is 8% raises.. which would be about $111M for 4 years.. or about $28M/year.

                            If he opts out of his deal and becomes a UFA, he can get up to 30% of the cap as his starting point, and then 8% raises after that. The cap is expected to be at $134M next season, so 30% of that becomes $40M as a starting point. No reason why he would get that.. but the smart play for him would be to opt out and get a number closer to what Herro got, then to take the extension.

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                            • planetmars wrote: View Post

                              The most he can get off an extension is 8% raises.. which would be about $111M for 4 years.. or about $28M/year.

                              If he opts out of his deal and becomes a UFA, he can get up to 30% of the cap as his starting point, and then 8% raises after that. The cap is expected to be at $134M next season, so 30% of that becomes $40M as a starting point. No reason why he would get that.. but the smart play for him would be to opt out and get a number closer to what Herro got, then to take the extension.
                              I thought it was closer to 114

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                              • The Great One wrote: View Post

                                Bet
                                well hten he needs to be eligible first

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