it could be a value contract in 3 and 4... if the player is a bust I could see why 3 or 4 might be problematic, but if you know you'll need to develop a guy for the first couple years, 4 years isn't necessarily that bad.
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saints91 wrote: View Postit could be a value contract in 3 and 4... if the player is a bust I could see why 3 or 4 might be problematic, but if you know you'll need to develop a guy for the first couple years, 4 years isn't necessarily that bad.
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TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
if its a minimum deal worst case scenario you have a guy taking up a roster spot unnecessarily like we have now with svi... i dont see that in this casae.
It comes down to if he wants to “bet on himself” and try to get a big contract after proving himself after 2 years, or if he wants the security of a 3-4 year contract.
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saints91 wrote: View Postit could be a value contract in 3 and 4... if the player is a bust I could see why 3 or 4 might be problematic, but if you know you'll need to develop a guy for the first couple years, 4 years isn't necessarily that bad.
After three years the player is RFA.
After four years they are UFA.
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Hotshot wrote: View PostWell that's sucks.
Really promising from last season. But if he can't play/train, he might be an easy cut (see DeAndre Daniels from a few years back).
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DanH wrote: View Post
Four years is VERY bad.
After three years the player is RFA.
After four years they are UFA.
So there is a gamble he could walk as a UFA, but we'd at least have his full bird rights.
EDIT - sorry, early bird is for players who are free agents after 2 years, not 3. We'd have his full bird rights. So yeah, I'd prefer a 3 year deal too then.Last edited by planetmars; Sun Jul 10, 2022, 07:04 PM.
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planetmars wrote: View Post
Even as an RFA we could get out bid if a team throws a contract his way that is larger than the non tax payer midlevel, as we'd only have his Early Bird Rights.
So there is a gamble he could walk as a UFA, but we'd at least have his full bird rights.
EDIT - sorry, early bird is for players who are free agents after 2 years, not 3. We'd have his full bird rights. So yeah, I'd prefer a 3 year deal too then.
That said, the Early Bird case does not prevent us from matching a higher offer, it's called the Gilbert Arenas provision and it just leads to the offer having a salary leap in year three. We could still match any offer, just couldn't offer more than the Norm Powell extension on our own.
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planetmars wrote: View Post
Really promising from last season. But if he can't play/train, he might be an easy cut (see DeAndre Daniels from a few years back).
Probably be ready to training camp as it's in the end of September.
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TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
can you have a 4 year with the last year being a team option?
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DanH wrote: View Post
You can, but this is exactly the situation teams should avoid. Picking up that team option is ALWAYS a bad idea. ALWAYS. Why leave yourself open to a future mistake when you have no reason to do so?
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golden wrote: View Post
I think Lu Dort had a 4 year super team-friendly contract, and OKC just declined the team option and signed him to a 5 year deal at market.
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