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2022 PreSeason - 3 Weeks to Camp Opening - Where Do The Raps Stack up in the East ?
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TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
where did you find that ranking?
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Puffer wrote: View Post
Sean Woodley mentioned John Shumman's Continuity Ranking in his discussion with Vivek Jacob about how the Cleveland deal for Donovan Mitchell would affect the Raptors a few days ago. I found John Shuman's page at NBA.com, and his power ranking of the Eastern Conference teams, but couldn't find his list of teams and their continuity ranking. Maybe he mentioned it in a podcast or some other article.
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The Hawks brought in Murray but lost Gallinari and Huerter. Both those guys were double digit scorers and plus 38% 3 point shooters.
Murray is a great player and has enough size to make a good backcourt partner for Young.....but he is used to having the ball in his hands and and is not a great 3 point shooter. It will be interesting to see how the two guards mesh and how that effects the rest of the roster. 2 ball dominant guys does not leave much leave much left for guys like Collins, Capella, Hunter, and Bogdanovic.Twitter @WJ_FINDLAY
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WJF wrote: View PostThe Hawks brought in Murray but lost Gallinari and Huerter. Both those guys were double digit scorers and plus 38% 3 point shooters.
Murray is a great player and has enough size to make a good backcourt partner for Young.....but he is used to having the ball in his hands and and is not a great 3 point shooter. It will be interesting to see how the two guards mesh and how that effects the rest of the roster. 2 ball dominant guys does not leave much leave much left for guys like Collins, Capella, Hunter, and Bogdanovic.
Atlanta is going to be very relevant this year.There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
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DanH wrote: View Post
Uhh. Precious has a long ways to go on offence. He's elite defensively already, and the concerns about his ability to defend in the paint are unfounded. But his offence is still damaging enough that it's hard to say he's better than these other established C's overall. Now, he made great strides last season but unless that improvement continues, he's still a little ways off from being a better than average starting C. That said, I do think he's a perfectly viable starting C as is, especially considering what the Raps want from that spot.
He is able to contribute offensively....
He improved his 3PT% to 36% which is above league average.
And the Raps are all about the 3 ball .. hoisting more than 35 a game.
We as a team , not just Achiwua , finished DFL (dead effing last) in defensive rebounds
https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/defe...gular%20Season
We finished 23rd out of 30 on surrendering 2nd chance points... 14 a game.
Dead last is 15 points a game.
It ain't pretty.
We need help at the 5 if you consider playing defense as a big part of the game.
Last edited by Demographic Shift; Mon Sep 5, 2022, 12:15 PM.There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
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Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
Your analysis looks backwards....
He is able to contribute offensively....
He improved his 3PT% to 36% which is above league average.
And the Raps are all about the 3 ball .. hoisting more than 35 a game.
We as a team , not just Achiwua , finished DFL (dead effing last) in defensive rebounds
https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/defe...gular%20Season
We finished 23rd out of 30 on surrendering 2nd chance points... 14 a game.
Dead last is 15 points a game.
It ain't pretty.
We need help at the 5 if you consider playing defense as a big part of the game.
And Raps rebounding isn’t just a function of size but of style. Guys are extended on the perimeter and scrambling constantly - you are going to suffer in the boards. It’s a trade-off. You can get the biggest dude you want but when he’s flying out at three point shooters and doubling on the perimeter he ain’t rebounding shit. Yes, they need to clean the glass better that’s a team issue that isn’t solved by getting one guy.
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slaw wrote: View Post
Raptors. Don’t. Have. A. 5. They also don’t have a 4,3,2 or 1. Precious will be handling the ball, shooting threes and running the break. Just like everyone else is expected to.
And Raps rebounding isn’t just a function of size but of style. Guys are extended on the perimeter and scrambling constantly - you are going to suffer in the boards. It’s a trade-off. You can get the biggest dude you want but when he’s flying out at three point shooters and doubling on the perimeter he ain’t rebounding shit. Yes, they need to clean the glass better that’s a team issue that isn’t solved by getting one guy.
After that not so much I am afraid.
Hoping that we get a different result on the defensive glass with the same players as last year is a pretty risky strategy.
There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
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Demographic Shift wrote: View PostDoes anyone see the Raps missing the playoffs ?
In no particular order in my opinion the top 9 in the east are:
Milwaukee
Boston
Philly
Miami
Brooklyn
Toronto
Cleveland
Chicago
Atlanta
That's 9. I think Charlotte, Detroit, Knicks, Orlando, Indy, Washington are all worse than the top 9.
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There are obviously a bunch of teams in the East that are more talented than the Raptors, but I'm expecting Raps to be a top 4 team and wouldn't be surprised at all if we are a top 2.
We're building some good chemistry between the core players right now with all of them together and participating in these Rico Hines runs. I'm expecting the Raps to have a quick start to the season while other teams in the East with new faces start off a bit slower while they figure things out. If we can build a decent lead we might be able to hold teams off. Vet teams like the Bucks and Heat tend to start pretty slow and save themselves for the playoffs.
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Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
Your analysis looks backwards....
He is able to contribute offensively....
He improved his 3PT% to 36% which is above league average.
And the Raps are all about the 3 ball .. hoisting more than 35 a game.
We as a team , not just Achiwua , finished DFL (dead effing last) in defensive rebounds
https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/defe...gular%20Season
We finished 23rd out of 30 on surrendering 2nd chance points... 14 a game.
Dead last is 15 points a game.
It ain't pretty.
We need help at the 5 if you consider playing defense as a big part of the game.
Even with Precious making leaps and bounds with his shooting last season, his season long offensive impact was disastrous, while his defensive impact was truly elite. He's currently the very definition of a defence first player. Almost any replacement for him would lead to better offensive results and worse defensive results for the team.
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