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Bonus Jonas wrote: View PostDo we get the full 5.3 MLE again or do we only get the 2.8 left over from signing JJ?
Also, we still have the 2.1 bi annual exception right?
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thead wrote: View Posthey Dan following up on the dropping both Lou and Amir
that would allow for a 13m dollar offer yes? Anything to be gained by letting Chuck Wagon and Fields walk as well?
Also final follow up can we let guys walk and resign with exceptions instead?
The numbers I've been quoting assume we let ALL of our expirings walk. Hansbrough, Lou, Amir, Hayes, Fields - that 28M coming off the books puts us 15M below the cap next summer. So to make a big offer, they all have to go.
We can re-sign guys with exceptions. But there are VERY limited exceptions available if you use cap space to sign a guy like Millsap. The Room MLE - about half the regular MLE - and minimum contracts are pretty much it. Might be able to bring back Fields and Hayes with those, but no chance on Amir or Lou.
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DanH wrote: View PostYou know how they "make the numbers work"? They shed draft picks. That's the price of making numbers work. Look at what Golden State had to do to get Iggy. Paid off for them, but if you get the wrong guy with that strategy, you are left without assets for a long time just because you didn't plan prudently at the time of signing the guy.
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thead wrote: View Postfor someone like Millsap in a sign and trade you would be looking at something like
Vasquez/Ross 1st round pick
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raptors999 wrote: View PostIggy was really expensive and GSW had a high payroll. Raptors are @ 48M and could sign either Lou or Amir to the MLE. It wouldn't be a big deal to get Millsap at a reasonable contract
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DanH wrote: View PostYou can't use the MLE if you use cap room, and neither Amir nor Lou signs for the MLE anyway, unless one of them drops off big time for the rest of the season. You keep saying we can do things that we simply cannot do.
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raptors999 wrote: View PostFree either Amir or Lou or both sign Millsap then use the MLE on Amir or Lou. Either Amir or Lou will be a MLE player. Think Raptors signs Amir to a 3year MLE with the knowledge he'll be out because of surgery for an extended time. GV doesn't fit and move him to sign Lou.
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raptors999 wrote: View PostWho knows? he's a 6.5M expiring give him away. It isn't the Jefferson and Beidrins. Toronto would probably get sth back for GV tbh.
i dont think you understand how cap works. and even if we could do this? whos the back up PG? chuck hayes is not even under contract to to run the offense. IT just WILL NOT work like that brother, unless you are talking about a huge overhaul to the roster.
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ball4life wrote: View Posteven if you do get the trade exception, you still can't give that $ to sign Lou as we wont have that amount under the "cap"
i dont think you understand how cap works. and even if we could do this? whos the back up PG? chuck hayes is not even under contract to to run the offense. IT just WILL NOT work like that brother, unless you are talking about a huge overhaul to the roster.
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raptors999 wrote: View PostWe have Lou's bird rights if we give up the rights to Amir.Toronto is losing 30M and is under the luxury and there is no way they can sign a sub 20M player and 2 players who are MLE contracts. No team could operate if they can't manipulate the salary cap. As long as the total is under the hard cap they can figure it out. Since none of this matter right now nobody but you is worrying about it.
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We would only have Lou's bird rights if we don't renounce it and in that case we are not shedding 30 million off the books.
after all this conversation and if you still think you can magically manipulate the cap to sign all the goodies then I don't know what to say to you. #KnicksFanSyndrome
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ball4life wrote: View PostThis is unnecessary.
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We would only have Lou's bird rights if we don't renounce it and in that case we are not shedding 30 million off the books.
after all this conversation and if you still think you can magically manipulate the cap to sign all the goodies then I don't know what to say to you. #KnicksFanSyndrome
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raptors999 wrote: View PostWe won't need bird rights to both. Nobody know what the cost for either will be. Millsap is going to cost probably 4/40 at least but less than 4/60. Lou isn't getting 7M a year even if he wins sixth man. None of them are Melo type deals there is room.
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