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  • #3, Simons, Sharpe, and Johnson for Pascal and Flynn. I think Portland might insist on keeping Sharpe, but I'd still do it with someone like Little. Scoot and Simons would be a horrible backcourt defensively, but Scoot should improve in that regard, and Simons is really just a stop-gap that can add shooting while we find more of the right pieces to put around Scottie and OG. Scoot's primary playmaking would change everything for this team, though.

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    • Jclaw wrote: View Post
      Anyone know the Stepian rules on trading a first round draft pick if you’re getting a first round draft pick? As in, we have already traded next year’s first. Can we trade this year’s (13) for the 3rd
      pick? Or do you have the other team make the pick for you and then just trade players?
      We could trade the 13th for the 3rd pick. Just need a pick in this draft.

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      • Primer wrote: View Post

        We could trade the 13th for the 3rd pick. Just need a pick in this draft.
        Meh, any draft night trade actually gets executed after the pick is made. Every one of them is technically "the other team drafts for you." You aren't allowed to trade picks from the evening before the draft until the pick is made, to make it easier on the televised draft presentation, and to avoid last second deals having to get punched into the big displays and all that. Kind of silly but it is what it is.

        That being said, we could trade the 13th pick for no pick in return, if the trade is on draft night, because at that point the current draft is no longer a "future" draft, and the Stepien rule only applies to future drafts. What we can't do is trade that 13th pick now with no pick back.

        But yes, the rule is that you must have A first round pick, not YOUR first round pick, to meet the Stepien rule requirements. So as long as you are guaranteed a pick in that future year draft (ie a protected pick doesn't help you here), you can trade the picks in the adjacent draft years.

        So if we wanted to pull the trigger on any deal now, and wanted to send out our 13th pick, then the deal would have to be one like the proposed Portland deal where we get a pick back in this draft, or it would need to wait until during/after the draft to be executed. Which is very much not a big deal, teams do this all the time. We should consider the 13th pick freely tradeable at this point.
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        • based on reports portland may be interested in og for the 3rd.. not sure what the deal would entail in terms of frame work but that is interesting

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          • TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
            based on reports portland may be interested in og for the 3rd.. not sure what the deal would entail in terms of frame work but that is interesting
            Seems unlikely the Raps would do that trade since they have indicated they want to win now with the core they have. We're sort of in the same position as Portland because both teams are looking to improve the roster for the coming season.

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            • LJ2 wrote: View Post

              Seems unlikely the Raps would do that trade since they have indicated they want to win now with the core they have. We're sort of in the same position as Portland because both teams are looking to improve the roster for the coming season.
              I think for an asset like the third overall pick, especially if Scoot slips, the Raps make an exception to that and take a deal with a little more long term upside.

              That said, I suspect Pascal is the likelier target for the Blazers if they are including high value draft assets.

              There's a world where both go, but I think it unlikely - the Raps do still want to compete, so keeping one of those guys would make sense even if they do leap on an opportunity to grab a high value prospect.
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              • DanH wrote: View Post

                I think for an asset like the third overall pick, especially if Scoot slips, the Raps make an exception to that and take a deal with a little more long term upside.

                That said, I suspect Pascal is the likelier target for the Blazers if they are including high value draft assets.

                There's a world where both go, but I think it unlikely - the Raps do still want to compete, so keeping one of those guys would make sense even if they do leap on an opportunity to grab a high value prospect.
                Yeah, if it was Scoot then the Raps might be willing to move OG, but doubt they would feel the same way about moving Siakam. Portland would definitely want Siakam. OG, I don't think moves the needle that much for them as title contenders.

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                • Why is Scoot considered a can't miss prospect?

                  His base stats look decent sure:
                  16.5ppg, 6.8apg, 5.3rpg with 1.1spg, 0.6bpg

                  But his efficiency sucks:
                  42.9%, 27.5% and 76% shooting splits.

                  Plus he's only 6'2. I was thinking he'd be 6'4 or 6'5. He also had a negative (-2.5) net rating.

                  Is it because he has flashy videos? 27.5% 3pt shooting is super ugly. And he takes about 2.7 a game. And he was pretty underwhelming during that rookie/sophomore game. And that's a pick up game. He should have been a highlight reel in that contest. He was given the spotlight and his own team, and was super meh.


                  I think this is a situation where his hype machine has made him overrated.


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                  • #2 on my list

                    https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/sta..._uLvn7wJQ&s=19
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                    • The shot looks nice.

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                      • GG Jackson

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                        • George is definitely a high upside pick.

                          His efficiency wasn't great but he had an insane 31% usage.

                          Assuming his efficiency goes up as his usage comes down to a more reasonable level (a logical assumption), he's got the DNA of lead scorer.

                          I'd be happy with him as the pick if management likes him.

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                          • How many favourites do you have? 50?

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                            • Yuri Gagarin wrote: View Post

                              How many favourites do you have? 50?
                              lol. one needs to cast a wide net to be able to say atoadaso in the future

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                              • Watched this earlier today. He looks really good right now. The intel that he was playing through an injury for a large chunk of the season looks legit. I did not realize he had as much bounce as he does, a nice surprise. Shoot looks efficient and he does have some playmaking chops. I have him above Bufkin and Hawkins. I think I may still rank Wallace in front of him for a lead guard, but it's getting closer for me.
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