New York Knicks @ Toronto Raptors - Friday Jan 6th 7:30et

[Kagemusha]

Knicks's first road game in TO since 2015.

Wow. This team is in freefall.

[G__Deane]

Raps have this habit of falling behind a ton early and clawing back to make it look respectable in another L

[golden]

Makes zero sense. And can’t advance the ball now.

And if we won the coaches challenge, Knicks would still get the ball and run more clock. Once again, I'm proposing we have an intervention to take the coaches challenge away from Nurse.

[The Great One]

Read the tweet again.
' not NBA caliber offence'

I mean, it's kinda harsh but Barnes can't shoot, he consistently misses bunnies just like the last possession there, he does a lot of Magic Johnson passes that goes nowhere.....so yeah his offense is not NBA caliber.

Again, nobody's expecting him to have a VC type superstar leap his second year, I wasn't even expecting him to have an all star type leap. My expectation was be better than last year. He has regressed big time. There's a reason why you hear a lot of MCW jokes.

[golden]

I mean, it's kinda harsh but Barnes can't shoot, he consistently misses bunnies just like the last possession there, he does a lot of Magic Johnson passes that goes nowhere.....so yeah his offense is not NBA caliber.

Again, nobody's expecting him to have a VC type superstar leap his second year, I wasn't even expecting him to have an all star type leap. My expectation was be better than last year. He has regressed big time. There's a reason why you hear a lot of MCW jokes.

Nick Nurse player development school is working wonders.

[Kagemusha]

I mean, it's kinda harsh but Barnes can't shoot, he consistently misses bunnies just like the last possession there, he does a lot of Magic Johnson passes that goes nowhere.....so yeah his offense is not NBA caliber.

Again, nobody's expecting him to have a VC type superstar leap his second year, I wasn't even expecting him to have an all star type leap. My expectation was be better than last year. He has regressed big time. There's a reason why you hear a lot of MCW jokes.

I agree.
Scottie is struggling.
But he is a 2nd yr player,
Why treat him this harsh?
What is the point?

[The Great One]

Nick Nurse player development school is working wonders.

One of the reasons why I want to see them trade one of OG or PS besides the obvious is I think it would open a lot of things for Barnes. Maybe he needs the ball more, maybe he's not comfortable playing C? and to be fair he shouldn't be playing C but with this lineup he has no choice.

[slaw]

Nick Nurse player development school is working wonders.

He’s playing center on defence then he’s defending point guards. Then he’s a PG on offence, nope, now he’s the center. There is way too much going on with him.

[Jclaw]

I love this team but...this was the Knicks without RJ. I don't know that we're making a deep run. Might be worth taking a shot at the ping pong balls.
JClaw has spoken

[Scraptor]

One of the reasons why I want to see them trade one of OG or PS besides the obvious is I think it would open a lot of things for Barnes. Maybe he needs the ball more, maybe he's not comfortable playing C? and to be fair he shouldn't be playing C but with this lineup he has no choice.

Yeah I don’t blame Scottie at all. Everyone’s role seems to be in flux thanks to the construction of the roster.

[golden]

One of the reasons why I want to see them trade one of OG or PS besides the obvious is I think it would open a lot of things for Barnes. Maybe he needs the ball more, maybe he's not comfortable playing C? and to be fair he shouldn't be playing C but with this lineup he has no choice.

For the umpteenth time.... Nurse doesn't want a traditional C. They want a mobile guy who can execute his myriad of switching and pressure D schemes. Or, if we can find a HoF IQ guy like pre-washed Gasol... that'll work too.

[Kagemusha]

He’s playing center on defence then he’s defending point guards. Then he’s a PG on offence, nope, now he’s the center. There is way too much going on with him.

Nick said they should be versatile, interchangeable.
Like Fred and Gary being able to guard 7 foot centers.
Soooo weird.

[Scraptor]

I love this team but...this was the Knicks without RJ. I don't know that we're making a deep run. Might be worth taking a shot at the ping pong balls.
JClaw has spoken

I can’t see any meaningful reason for us not to tank at this point. We have two major expirings, a mismatched timeline, and a crappy record.

Really hope that Masai and Bobby are proactive and we don’t end up with another Kyle at the deadline scenario where nothing happens.

[Kagemusha]

For the umpteenth time.... Nurse doesn't want a traditional C. They want a mobile guy who can execute his myriad of switching and pressure D schemes. Or, if we can find a HoF IQ guy like pre-washed Gasol... that'll work too.

I am afraid he will be gone coaching in europe before that happens.

[The Great One]

I can’t see any meaningful reason for us not to tank at this point. We have two major expirings, a mismatched timeline, and a crappy record.

Really hope that Masai and Bobby are proactive and we don’t end up with another Kyle at the deadline scenario where nothing happens.

We gotta sell high on Trent, trade one of OG or PS, and IF there's a market for Fred....trade him too.