Everything Trade Deadline 2023

[A.I]

That 3-pick offer for OG snippet came from Bruce Arthur. Is Arthur connected at all to anything NBA anymore? I remember him writing for the Globe and now he's working for the Star. Seems like he made that up, or got some bullsh!t from the Raptors to increase OG's market.

If there were 3 first round picks (no swaps) and players to make a trade work.. the deal would have been done already.

Depends on the trade. If its just 3 picks and salary filler, I'm not sure that would interest me much. It also depends on the team. Is it the Grizzlies or another contending team? If so, those picks will likely be in the 20s.

[chris]

If it is a 2028 FRP, no thanks then.

Fuck Ballmer, not helping him at all.

Lets go with the Orlando deal

i think a 2028 FRP from then should be pretty valuable actually. look at all the draft capital they traded in my previous post... there's a good chance they'll suck in 2028

[A.I]

i think a 2028 FRP from then should be pretty valuable actually. look at all the draft capital they traded in my previous post... there's a good chance they'll suck in 2028

Agreed. Thats 5 years from now and given Kawhi and PG's age and injury history, its likely they'll suck by then.

Kawhi will be 36 and PG will be 37 in 5 years.

[slaw]

That 3-pick offer for OG snippet came from Bruce Arthur. Is Arthur connected at all to anything NBA anymore? I remember him writing for the Globe and now he's working for the Star. Seems like he made that up, or got some bullsh!t from the Raptors to increase OG's market.

If there were 3 first round picks (no swaps) and players to make a trade work.. the deal would have been done already.

I thought Arthur was an epidemiologist and pandemic expert now. Didn't know he was still writing his shitty basketball columns.

[planetmars]

Depends on the trade. If its just 3 picks and salary filler, I'm not sure that would interest me much. It also depends on the team. Is it the Grizzlies or another contending team? If so, those picks will likely be in the 20s.

I'd still do it though. They could have one bad year. Ja goes down for a season, and they might get you pick in the teens. If you have multiple picks in a draft, you can use them to trade up and get a player you want.

[The Claw Reborn]

i think a 2028 FRP from then should be pretty valuable actually. look at all the draft capital they traded in my previous post... there's a good chance they'll suck in 2028

True..but 5 years away lots of stuff can happen. Ballmer will for sure wont mind to pay the luxury tax to attract blue chips free agents simultaneous to them completing the build of their new arena in Inglewood. He will most likely showcase those blue chippers with his new $2 billion Intuit man cave in 2024-25 and can easily contend onward to 2028, which would lessen the value of that 2028 FRP.

I would want immediate gratification return (1-2 years) for our tradeable asset like VanVleet. Assets who matches Scottie’s timeline and can easily contend in 1-2 years time

lets pursue Orlando as our priority

my two cents

[Jclaw]

relevant? Random?

[slaw]

All I will say about picks is that any trade rumor that doesn't result in an immediate return can be comfortably ignored. This front office wants to win and still has a bunch of decent players to work with (even if things didn't work out this season). They are going to want good players back in trades rather than magic beans that may or may not amount to anything years from now.

Trades along the lines of the Powell-Trent deal are the types of deals that warrant attention.

[golden]

All I will say about picks is that any trade rumor that doesn't result in an immediate return can be comfortably ignored. This front office wants to win and still has a bunch of decent players to work with (even if things didn't work out this season). They are going to want good players back in trades rather than magic beans that may or may not amount to anything years from now.

Trades along the lines of the Powell-Trent deal are the types of deals that warrant attention.

Yeah, a "blockbuster" trade that the Raps front office would probably be drooling over, would be something like:

To Wizards: Trent, Flynn
To Raps: Gafford, Monte Morris, Delon Wright

[planetmars]

All I will say about picks is that any trade rumor that doesn't result in an immediate return can be comfortably ignored. This front office wants to win and still has a bunch of decent players to work with (even if things didn't work out this season). They are going to want good players back in trades rather than magic beans that may or may not amount to anything years from now.

Trades along the lines of the Powell-Trent deal are the types of deals that warrant attention.

One of Masai's best trades was trading Vasquez for 1 first and a 2nd. Those picks became OG and Norm. No players were brought back (we traded Vasquez into a TPE).

[The Claw Reborn]

relevant? Random?

Pure speculation from me but Probably disgruntled with his former agent who leaked a little smoke about turning down the 114 million offer. Bet on himself once again.

He will get paid for sure in the open market this offseason as it’s unlikely he will exercise his option…trading him now before losing him is the best and most prudent move.

But what do we know, Masai and Bobby may see him as Scottie’s sponsor and older brother for another four years and invest 120 million. Yikes.

[slaw]

One of Masai's best trades was trading Vasquez for 1 first and a 2nd. Those picks became OG and Norm. No players were brought back (we traded Vasquez into a TPE).

Sure but that was a completely different context. Raps were getting rid of a guy they didn't really need for a lot of value coming back.

Trading guys like Trent or OG for future picks leaves massive holes they can't readily fill unless they get something back and only makes sense if there's a much bigger restructuring of the roster contemplated, which I don't think is the case.

[Primer]

Depends on the trade. If its just 3 picks and salary filler, I'm not sure that would interest me much. It also depends on the team. Is it the Grizzlies or another contending team? If so, those picks will likely be in the 20s.

Yeah, really hard to say yes or no without more info on the picks coming back.

Say it's with the Grizzlies.

They only have their pick this year, so bottom of the 1st round, not great.

Next year they have their pick and GSW pick. I'd demand the better of the two, which likely ends up GSW pick, could be a good one, that is an old roster.

Then in 2025 they only have their pick, so likely bottom of the 1st again.

Is it worth trading OG for two bottom of the 1st round picks and one likely in the teens?

The players coming back to match salary would be disappointing no matter who it is. Jones, Brooks, Zaire. You'd have to demand Bane comes our way at least.

If the rumored trade partner is the Pelicans, they have some sexy picks to make things worth it. The Lakers 1st this year and next year.

[planetmars]

If Arthur wasn't blowing smoke it was likely NY that offered the picks. They have all their own but they also own Dallas' 2023 pick, Detroit's 2023 pick (protected) and Washington's 2023 pick (protected).

Right now the Mavs pick comes in at 20. The Knicks own pick comes in at 19. Then take the Wiz pick. Can't claim it in 2023, but eventually you might. It's protected 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026.

That Detroit pick might just continue to be awful.. but so could that Wiz pick. Hard to decide. Could just ask for the Knicks 2025 pick instead.


As for players they could give us Fournier and Quickley and we give back OG and Flynn. That's an upgrade for our backup PG spot. Maybe expand the trade by giving them Thad or Boucher and we take back Reddish or Toppin. .


That Knicks pick could free fall. Wouldn't be completely surprised if they end up out of the play-offs after losing in the play-in.

[Maury]

If Arthur wasn't blowing smoke it was likely NY that offered the picks. They have all their own but they also own Dallas' 2023 pick, Detroit's 2023 pick (protected) and Washington's 2023 pick (protected).

Right now the Mavs pick comes in at 20. The Knicks own pick comes in at 19. Then take the Wiz pick. Can't claim it in 2023, but eventually you might. It's protected 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026.

That Detroit pick might just continue to be awful.. but so could that Wiz pick. Hard to decide. Could just ask for the Knicks 2025 pick instead.


As for players they could give us Fournier and Quickley and we give back OG and Flynn. That's an upgrade for our backup PG spot. Maybe expand the trade by giving them Thad or Boucher and we take back Reddish or Toppin. .


That Knicks pick could free fall. Wouldn't be completely surprised if they end up out of the play-offs after losing in the play-in.

I'd hate to see OG on the knicks