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  • Primer wrote: View Post
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    Even if that's true, you don't eat a shit sandwich trade just because he's pouty about his current role on offense.

    Really really hard for the Suns to give us something worth OG unless they want to send us Bridges.

    Cam Johnson is 27 is pretty mediocre in my opinion. OG is way better.
    OG is better which is why it wouldn’t be a 1 for 1

    Cam is 26 and does some things a lot worse than OG, but also does some things better that might suit the team better. You’d also assume we’d land a draft pick or 2, along with another asset (hopefully Crowder to flip for another piece)

    No one thinks we’ll get a piece back better than OG. But the sum of parts might be better value than OG at the end of the day.


    Never forget that Rudy Gay was the best player by far but we benefitted much more from Patrick Patterson, Greivis Vazquez, Chuck Hayes and John Salmons.

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    • It’s tough overall, OG is my favourite player on the team but I get the rationale if he is moved. I don’t think his value has ever been higher

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      • MixxAOR wrote: View Post


        Interesting take. I tend to agree. It is a drastic change but if you still believe in this group you gotta give them another chance with a different coach.
        A shot at what exactly?

        second half of last season was fun and the team played extremely well, but they only got to 5th seed. This season is similar except the struggles from the first half of the season is lasting longer.

        The makeup of the team isn't good enough, even if you think the core can succeed. Not a lot of shooting to surround your two finishers/playmakers in Pascal and Scottie and the 3 main shooters have struggled to shoot for majority of the season.

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        • Primer wrote: View Post

          Didn't lose a pick. Moved back 13 spots. Sorry but that's still a huge pet peeve of mine.
          Haha, yes of course. I now recall you pointing that out before. Even better then should Thad be flipped for pick. Didn't we do something like that with...John salmons maybe?

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          • Boucher hasn't been talked about a lot. But he is a good deadline asset too. An energy bench big that lots of playoffs teams could use. Should fit into most systems just running the floor o boarding and dunking. Could fetch a late 1st or a fringe rotation young guy who hasn't broken into a team yet
            To be the champs you got to beat the champs

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            • JawsGT wrote: View Post

              Haha, yes of course. I now recall you pointing that out before. Even better then should Thad be flipped for pick. Didn't we do something like that with...John salmons maybe?
              Yup. John Salmons on a partially guaranteed deal for Lou Will and Bebe

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              • MixxAOR wrote: View Post

                your tone bro man...you talk to everybody like this?
                Who's everybody?
                TooMuchHoops (Brad)?

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                • MixxAOR wrote: View Post

                  But it's true
                  Its false just on the basis that OG is leading the league in steals and I'm not even gonna bother talking about his elite defense.
                  Nevermind what haters say,
                  ignore them ’til they fade away. - T.I

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                  • chch166 wrote: View Post

                    Its false just on the basis that OG is leading the league in steals and I'm not even gonna bother talking about his elite defense.
                    I don't know. I'm looking at DFG% and Defensive RAPTOR stats. And he's in good category. No elite.
                    Last edited by MixxAOR; Wed Feb 1, 2023, 12:21 AM.
                    Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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                    • MixxAOR wrote: View Post

                      I don't know. I'm looking at DFG% and Defensive RAPTOR stats. And he's in good category. No elite.
                      Who would you have above OG as a wing defender in the league? Im genuinely curious.
                      To be the champs you got to beat the champs

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                      • Primer wrote: View Post

                        Nah, that's the dumbest take.

                        This hodgepodge roster no one else is having success with just needs a new coach.

                        The best way to burn another season is assume a coaching change will fix everything.
                        i can't believe I am going back on something I said before about coaching. I still think coaching can make a difference but it depends on the roster. Coaching in a sense can be the ultimate ceiling raiser but it isn't a floor raising thing. I agree with you Primer. If roster construction is the problem regardless of how the minutes are being distributed or anything else you have to fix that FIRST. You can fix both at the same time even. Also people have to accept that FVV isn't getting much better than he is now if anything he will decrease in value. I think he will have value for sure but not enough on court to justify 30 million if you want to compete.

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                        • The Great One wrote: View Post

                          He can guard Embiid?
                          he can guard jokic

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                          • Bonus Jonas wrote: View Post

                            OG is better which is why it wouldn’t be a 1 for 1

                            Cam is 26 and does some things a lot worse than OG, but also does some things better that might suit the team better. You’d also assume we’d land a draft pick or 2, along with another asset (hopefully Crowder to flip for another piece)

                            No one thinks we’ll get a piece back better than OG. But the sum of parts might be better value than OG at the end of the day.


                            Never forget that Rudy Gay was the best player by far but we benefitted much more from Patrick Patterson, Greivis Vazquez, Chuck Hayes and John Salmons.
                            Cam turns 27 in a month. He's 26 and 335 days. He's 27.

                            Cam Johnson against the Raptors last game. 25 min, 4 pts, 1-9 FG. Sorry if I don't think this guy is remotely worth OG.

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                            • If RJ Barrett is on the table what do people think about OG to the Knicks?

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                              • Primer wrote: View Post

                                Cam turns 27 in a month. He's 26 and 335 days. He's 27.

                                Cam Johnson against the Raptors last game. 25 min, 4 pts, 1-9 FG. Sorry if I don't think this guy is remotely worth OG.
                                He's 26 until he’s 27

                                And yeah let’s base everything on one game that is genius

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