Everything Trade Deadline 2023

[G__Deane]

Report: Lakers offered two firsts, Westbrook for Irving; Suns proposed Paul package

Charania reports the Los Angeles Lakers offered Russell Westbrook and unprotected first-round picks in 2027 and 2029 for Irving, but the Nets responded by saying Los Angeles would need to also include all their young players — including Austin Reeves and Max Christie — and pick swaps to enter the sweepstakes.

Adding a wrinkle to this negotiation, NBA insider Marc Stein reports that it was Nets owner Joe Tsai's objective not to send Irving to the Lakers.

The Phoenix Suns offered star point guard Chris Paul, Jae Crowder and a first-round pick, according to Charania, who adds that a deal would have been clinched had Phoenix included three first-round picks instead.

So glad he didn't end up in LA either Lakers or Clippers and makes FVV that much more valuable to, unfortunately to both of those same teams. Thankfully, neither one really has what we need. Would you take the Suns offer, but for Fred? I'd want younger and picks.

[MixxAOR]

The Irving trade gives the Nets far more flexibility for trades. Simmons, Thomas, and Day’Ron Sharpe are their most intriguing young players. For draft picks, they have their own 2028 and 2029 first-rounders, a future first from Philadelphia in 2027 or 2028, and the Dallas first in 2029. They can deal up to three future firsts, plus one swap. With those prospects and picks, they can’t trump any offer, but they’re positioned to compete in the trade market.

I reported last month that the Nets have interest in Timberwolves center Naz Reid, which still appears to be the case. The center market is pretty slim overall. The Magic are open to moving Mo Bamba. The Jazz could move Kelly Olynyk or Jarred Vanderbilt. All of them would provide the Nets with some needed frontcourt shooting. John Collins would be an intriguing option if the Hawks decide to move on from him, but his jacked-up ring finger has ruined his jumper. Maybe the Nets don’t need a center who can space the floor, just a big body who can battle against larger frontlines. If so, then someone like Jakob Poeltl has appeal.

One of the teams Brooklyn has been most connected to is the Raptors, who have had trade talks with multiple teams involving Pascal Siakam and O.G. Anunoby. The Raptors had interest in Simmons in 2021 when the 76ers were shopping him. Though Scottie Barnes’s emergence would make Simmons a strange fit as they’re both non-shooters, he does count as a buy-low, high-value target who could restore his career in time.

Kevin O'Connor article

[planetmars]

My trade of FVV for Dinwiddie + FRP is very much in play.

But FVV has upped his value since then, so Masai now trying to figure out how to get Nic Claxton into the deal.

Dinwiddie is 29... he's actually older than Fred. So what are we doing here with that trade?

[golden]

Dinwiddie is 29... he's actually older than Fred. So what are we doing here with that trade?

(1) Not paying Fred, (2) Not tanking & (3) Pushing the rebuild decision out 2 years.

Not saying I agree with that line of thinking, but I think Masai absolutely loathes bottoming out, but they also don’t want to pay Fred. It’s a treadmill move.

[golden]

Kevin O'Connor article

I could possibly see a Trent for Simmons move here. Not FVV or OG.

[TomAmnot]

I could possibly see a Trent for Simmons move here. Not FVV or OG.

Simmons is paid so much money... I guess we would receive a couple picks!..

[MixxAOR]

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2023/2/...zlies-pelicans

The Pelicans have better (or at least currently more productive) young talent to choose from - Trey Murphy III, Jaxson Hayes, Dyson Daniels, Herbert Jones - as enticing pieces to make a Anunoby trade happen. They also have a glut of draft capital thanks to their deals for Anthony Davis with the Lakers and Jrue Holiday with the Bucks. If NOLA wants Anunoby, it’s fair to say that they can get him and outbid Memphis in terms of current talent PLUS a couple of future first round picks.

But outside of the pressure of trying to prevent Memphis from acquiring Anunoby (and vice versa, of course), with the health of the roster still in question, as tantalizing as a CJ McCollum/Brandon Ingram/O.G. Anunoby/Zion Williamson/Jonas Valanciunas is ... does blocking a Grizzlies all-in move mean NOLA is better prepared to win a title now? The Grizzlies are five games ahead of New Orleans for the No. 2 seed, and losing out on depth in the here and now could hurt the Pelicans and their chances to make up ground if something were to happen to Ingram or Williamson again.

Both Memphis and New Orleans are young teams with bright futures. But the present could be much more luminescent if either franchise is willing to outbid the other for Anunoby. Toronto will have its choice of offers, if they choose to trade Anunoby at all. But does O.G. make the Grizzlies or Pelicans possible NBA Finals combatants? That’s what both the Memphis and New Orleans front offices will have to try to answer over the next three days.
Grizzlies, Pelicans NBA trade deadline prediction


The Grizzlies need a shake-up, but go the route of adding bench assistance in some combination of Alex Caruso, Malik Beasley, Alec Burks, or Josh Richardson. Those names can be helpful without costing Memphis that draft flexibility they covet. New Orleans combines draft assets with young players and matching salaries better than Memphis is willing/able to do, and acquires O.G. Anunoby for Dyson Daniels, Devonte Graham, and two future 1st round picks.

[DanH]

Trading Fred for Dinwiddie absolutely makes us worse, so I'd hardly call it a move to maintain the status quo.

[planetmars]

(1) Not paying Fred, (2) Not tanking & (3) Pushing the rebuild decision out 2 years.

Not saying I agree with that line of thinking, but I think Masai absolutely loathes bottoming out, but they also don’t want to pay Fred. It’s a treadmill move.

The latest rumour is that the Raptors are targeting young players over draft picks in exchange for OG. I can see the same logic for Fred too.

Here is the piece:
https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans...a72a6096d.html

Multiple league insiders told The Times-Picayune that the Raptors’ preference is to get back young players in any deal for Anunoby as opposed to picks. The Pelicans are armed with both of those things. Dyson Daniels, Jones and Naji Marshall are all homegrown talent on team-friendly deals. Plus, the Pelicans own the rights to all of their own first-round picks in the next five years in addition to the 2024 Los Angeles Lakers first that can be deferred until 2025 and a 2027 Milwaukee Bucks first.

Dinwiddie is not young. And they can save money in other ways. If the Nets include Claxton then he's the prize not Dinwiddie.

[golden]

Trading Fred for Dinwiddie absolutely makes us worse, so I'd hardly call it a move to maintain the status quo.

Fred is already “leading” us to a top 6 draft pick, so how much worse/better would Dinwiddie make us? You put the ball in his hands, force the team to adjust to him and you can inflate his numbers to fringe all-star, just like Fred. Just like any other combo guard who can shoot and handle a bit.

And FVV and Dinwiddie are a LOT closer in ability than Raptor fans probably want to admit.

[golden]

The latest rumour is that the Raptors are targeting young players over draft picks in exchange for OG. I can see the same logic for Fred too.

Here is the piece:
https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans...a72a6096d.html




Dinwiddie is not young. And they can save money in other ways. If the Nets include Claxton then he's the prize not Dinwiddie.

Yep. That’s what I said…. Claxton is the target. Dinwiddie would just be a sideways move to replace Fred and keep things afloat.

[planetmars]

Yep. That’s what I said…. Claxton is the target. Dinwiddie would just be a sideways move to replace Fred and keep things afloat.

Sure, except I don't think Claxton is available though.

[golden]

Sure, except I don't think Claxton is available though.

Yep. Wishful thinking. Claxton is an All-Defense candidate now and the prototypical, switchable modern center.

[LJ2]

Being that it's the week of the deadline are there any advantages to waiting on making any trades? It feels like we've been in the rumors for so long that offers aren't going to get any better than what we've received already. Teams aren't going to wait on Toronto with their own playoff futures in the balance and will be moving on with plan B soon. Hope we don't lose out because Masai and Bobby are playing chicken with teams over an extra SRP....or maybe Raps aren't planning on making any moves

[Kagemusha]

Being that it's the week of the deadline are there any advantages to waiting on making any trades? It feels like we've been in the rumors for so long that offers aren't going to get any better than what we've received already. Teams aren't going to wait on Toronto with their own playoff futures in the balance and will be moving on with plan B soon. Hope we don't lose out because Masai and Bobby are playing chicken with teams over an extra SRP....or maybe Raps aren't planning on making any moves

I think they are seriously making some.
Masai and Bobby won't be travelling with the team otherwise.