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I think the DeRozan vs. Ross argument has been settled. Terrence is good but, he's not a "difference maker"/"game changer", yet. At his position, he's still physically weak, timid & unsure. DeMar's return ensures a 3rd place finish & advance to the 2nd round (at least). 5 years in, he's at least 3 rounds in.
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I think Ross can handle coming off the bench, it's not like he's being put in a Landry Fields role.
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tDotted wrote: View Postglad he's making his 3's but this system encourages way too many low % shots. i think the thing that's getting to most people is his lack of focus, and seemingly enormous potential but little effort in achieving it. after 2 and a half seasons, he's just added a floater.
Edit: Going to move some thoughts to the Everything TR thread
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OldSkoolCool wrote: View PostI'm gonna stick by Ross.
People here can keep pointing the finger at him and thinking he sucks but he is the least of our concerns right now.
He is still improving too. I say a change of system (of the better variety) followed by a true evaluation of him is a fair point.
MU has said as much that "we need to be patient with Ross and JV"
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TeamEd wrote: View PostThe case for Terrence Ross:
97 guards have >25 games and >20 min/game, of them:
Ross is 9th of 97 in turnover ratio. He does not turn the ball over.
He's 21 of 97 in 3p% and 24 of 97 in eFG%. He's the best wing shooter on the team by a ways. Kyle is 40. Lou is 50. GV is 67.
He's 65 of 97 in USG%. He does not need a lot of play calls to get his offence.
He's 15 of 97 in highest 3pt field goal attempt rate taking 50% of his FGA from 3, and he converts them at a well above average 38% clip. This is quite efficient. Combine that with and his low usage rate makes him a good fit to space Kyle and DD.
The five man lineup of DD, AJ, KL, TRoss and JV was +9 per 100 possessions before DD's injury. That's the best rate for any five man lineup to get major minutes with JV at the C.
The case against Terrence Ross:
We all know it.
/ I would not be unhappy if he sat, but I do think he should get a solid opportunity in his old role. 3 games. Less if he's a tire fire.
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TeamEd wrote: View PostThe case for Terrence Ross:
97 guards have >25 games and >20 min/game, of them:
Ross is 9th of 97 in turnover ratio. He does not turn the ball over.
He's 21 of 97 in 3p% and 24 of 97 in eFG%. He's the best wing shooter on the team by a ways. Kyle is 40. Lou is 50. GV is 67.
He's 65 of 97 in USG%. He does not need a lot of play calls to get his offence.
He's 15 of 97 in highest 3pt field goal attempt rate taking 50% of his FGA from 3, and he converts them at a well above average 38% clip. This is quite efficient. Combine that with and his low usage rate makes him a good fit to space Kyle and DD.
The five man lineup of DD, AJ, KL, TRoss and JV was +9 per 100 possessions before DD's injury. That's the best rate for any five man lineup to get major minutes with JV at the C.
The case against Terrence Ross:
We all know it.
/ I would not be unhappy if he sat, but I do think he should get a solid opportunity in his old role. 3 games. Less if he's a tire fire.
People here can keep pointing the finger at him and thinking he sucks but he is the least of our concerns right now.
He is still improving too. I say a change of system (of the better variety) followed by a true evaluation of him is a fair point.
MU has said as much that "we need to be patient with Ross and JV"
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breakin_ankles wrote: View PostIgnore this. He was unproductive before DD in his given position and didn't flourish in is natural position with DD out. He should have to earn that time back... I would be furious if I'm JJ and I'm sent back to the bench after being the only man to bring it every fucking game
97 guards have >25 games and >20 min/game, of them:
Ross is 9th of 97 in turnover ratio. He does not turn the ball over.
He's 21 of 97 in 3p% and 24 of 97 in eFG%. He's the best wing shooter on the team by a ways. Kyle is 40. Lou is 50. GV is 67.
He's 65 of 97 in USG%. He does not need a lot of play calls to get his offence.
He's 15 of 97 in highest 3pt field goal attempt rate taking 50% of his FGA from 3, and he converts them at a well above average 38% clip. This is quite efficient. Combine that with and his low usage rate makes him a good fit to space Kyle and DD.
The five man lineup of DD, AJ, KL, TRoss and JV was +9 per 100 possessions before DD's injury. That's the best rate for any five man lineup to get major minutes with JV at the C.
The case against Terrence Ross:
We all know it.
/ I would not be unhappy if he sat, but I do think he should get a solid opportunity in his old role. 3 games. Less if he's a tire fire.
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tDotted wrote: View Posti'd rather JJ or DD force a shot in the paint then Ross forcing a shot from deep
Teams could play zone and shut us down.
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MixxAOR wrote: View Postthe only way it could work is if DD can take on reserved role and be a floor spacer on corners. He's decent from there. Otherwise PNR and driving overall will suffer because opponent can pack the paint.
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iblastoff wrote: View Postif thats the case, why bother taking ross out?
But for what it's worth
Lowry, DeRozan, James, Amir and Valanciunas have played five minutes together this year, for record. Net rating: +35.6/100 possessions!
— Eric Koreen (@ekoreen) January 13, 2015
WHOLE 5 MINUTES GUYS
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MixxAOR wrote: View Postthe only way it could work is if DD can take on reserved role and be a floor spacer on corners. He's decent from there. Otherwise PNR and driving overall will suffer because opponent can pack the paint.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostAnyone think that the lack of 3 point shooting (if JJ started with DeRozan) to be much less of a concern than everyone's letting on? After all, it's more than possible to create open looks inside the arc.
And at the very least, it'll keep our "chucking" to a minimum
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Nilanka wrote: View PostAnyone think that the lack of 3 point shooting (if JJ started with DeRozan) to be much less of a concern than everyone's letting on? After all, it's more than possible to create open looks inside the arc.
And at the very least, it'll keep our "chucking" to a minimum
I think it would be a pretty big concern and the lineup probably isn't a great idea.. Maybe not as catastrophic as us fans think. But we fans tend to be a little overdramatic about such things.
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