Game #42: Toronto Raptors 86 - Memphis Grizzlies 92

[golden]

Not that simple.

With Ross, it's definitely a slump. After his 5-11 in the last Bulls game, he was at 40%. He's been dropping since and hasn't made more than 2 3pt shots in a game since.

With Williams, as you pointed out, he's basically the same as last year and basically career average

But Vasquez is at his career average also. He'd never shot the 3 as well as he did in the 61 games for the Raps last year (contract year?).

It's Lowry who's most puzzling. He hasn't shot the 3 this poorly since the 09-10 season. Yet he's shot better than last year from everywhere else inside the line.

3 pt shooting is huge. Of the 10 teams that have taken the most 3 pt shots this year, only the Pistons are a lottery team. The 10 teams with the best 3 pt% only the Magic are lottery bound.

Don't shoot or make 3's, defences can sag, making it harder to go inside successfully.

The problem could be consistency with the passing game. Shooters need consistency to find a rhythm. You can't all of a sudden become a 'passing team' for one game, when you've been an ISO team for the majority of the year. Then, you're just relying on guys to suddenly heat up for that game or quarter. Inconsistency in passing will lead to inconsistency in shooting %, IMO. Maybe somebody's got some stats to prove or dis-prove this idea.

[SamMitchells]

^this 100%
We have the personnel but lack the plays being drawn out by the coach.

The raptors play offense like any pick up game you play .
* there are no plays, just give the guys the ball and they do what there comfortable.
Doesn't sound professional.

[Chr1s1anL]

Very happy with the effort on both sides this game. If we play with that kind of effort will be fine. Last two games were played with playoffs intensity. The more games we play like that the more prepared will get for the playoffs.

One other the thing Masai should look into is actually acquiring a shooter. Right now we just have a bunch of scorers that can shoot. No legit 3 point threat. At the beginning of the year it was 3Pat and Ross but, now they can't shoot it into the ocean.

[golden]

Very happy with the effort on both sides this game. If we play with that kind of effort will be fine. Last two games were played with playoffs intensity. The more games we play like that the more prepared will get for the playoffs.

One other the thing Masai should look into is actually acquiring a shooter. Right now we just have a bunch of scorers that can shoot. No legit 3 point threat. At the beginning of the year it was 3Pat and Ross but, now they can't shoot it into the ocean.

How does getting another shooter solve that problem, if they don't get the ball consistently?

2Pat is at a career low USG% (12.7%). That's Tyson Chandler low. Ross is a shooter who has been told to dribble-drive the ball and is back to being a 5th option, with DD back. Casey has publicly stated that he thinks this Raps team isn't capable of passing.

We could get Kyle Korver and he would still look bad in this offense.

[raptors999]

How does getting another shooter solve that problem, if they don't get the ball consistently?

2Pat is at a career low USG% (12.7%). That's Tyson Chandler low. Ross is a shooter who has been told to dribble-drive the ball and is back to being a 5th option, with DD back. Casey has publicly stated that he thinks this Raps team isn't capable of passing.

We could get Kyle Korver and he would still look bad in this offense.

Waiting at the three point line hoping the defense forgets about you isn't an offense.

[MACK11]

Very happy with the effort on both sides this game. If we play with that kind of effort will be fine. Last two games were played with playoffs intensity. The more games we play like that the more prepared will get for the playoffs.

One other the thing Masai should look into is actually acquiring a shooter. Right now we just have a bunch of scorers that can shoot. No legit 3 point threat. At the beginning of the year it was 3Pat and Ross but, now they can't shoot it into the ocean.

Even if we were to aquire more shooters they wouldn't get the ball

[raptors999]

Very happy with the effort on both sides this game. If we play with that kind of effort will be fine. Last two games were played with playoffs intensity. The more games we play like that the more prepared will get for the playoffs.

One other the thing Masai should look into is actually acquiring a shooter. Right now we just have a bunch of scorers that can shoot. No legit 3 point threat. At the beginning of the year it was 3Pat and Ross but, now they can't shoot it into the ocean.

The only reason to get a 3-D wing is to move GV from the starting rotation. No team with Vasquez as the starting SG and Lou as the backup PG is going anywhere.

[Chr1s1anL]

How does getting another shooter solve that problem, if they don't get the ball consistently?

2Pat is at a career low USG% (12.7%). That's Tyson Chandler low. Ross is a shooter who has been told to dribble-drive the ball and is back to being a 5th option, with DD back. Casey has publicly stated that he thinks this Raps team isn't capable of passing.

We could get Kyle Korver and he would still look bad in this offense.

Did you not see all the open threes we missed last night?

[Chr1s1anL]

Even if we were to aquire more shooters they wouldn't get the ball

I saw a lot of different players miss open three. Their moving the ball their just not finishing the play.

[3inthekeon]

^this 100%
We have the personnel but lack the plays being drawn out by the coach.

The raptors play offense like any pick up game you play .
* there are no plays, just give the guys the ball and they do what there comfortable.
Doesn't sound professional.

We had the same coach last year and a lot of the same players. Was Salmons the reason we shot so well last year?

[MixxAOR]

We had the same coach last year and a lot of the same players. Was Salmons the reason we shot so well last year?

well Salmons did shoot 40% from three

[SamMitchells]

We had the same coach last year and a lot of the same players. Was Salmons the reason we shot so well last year?

We were hot bro . "Live by the 3 die by the 3"
We're dying now.

Also I'd like to believe we were a little under estimated last year and even for a while this year. Now teams take us more seriously since we were(sigh) making noise.
The scouting report is out y'all , and the contested ISO jumpers ain't goin' in.

[rightsideup]

We still missed some open shots that we make sometimes. Demar fooled us with his first good game and it will take him a while to get going. We need to feature Jonas more and the purposed trade for Miles P does not really add a good Big from a scoring sense. Green is streaky.

[raptors999]

We had the same coach last year and a lot of the same players. Was Salmons the reason we shot so well last year?

New players no time to integrate with the offence and team didn't have time to adjust. Playoff Raptors shot .31 and attempted 21. Novak attempted less than 1 and 2Pats less than 3

[golden]

Did you not see all the open threes we missed last night?

One game is a pretty low sample size to draw conclusions. Like I posted earlier, IMO, if you're not normally a passing team, it's a completely different situation for a shooter. Shooters aren't expecting the pass as a first option and getting into a consistent shooting rhythm from game to game.

Same thing happens with Lowry/Amir pick & rolls. Ever notice that Amir rarely rolls hard to the basket anymore with Lowry, like he did with Jose. It's because he knows he's got almost no chance of getting the ball. Amir knows that Lowry will head kamikaze style into a wall of defenders, so he rolls half-heartedly and positions himself for the offensive rebound. And the opposition defence knows exactly what is going to happen, too.

Our 'shooters' are not not thinking of shot-first, their thinking of offensive rebound or getting back on D.

Lowry missing 3's is also a different story. He's being guarded like an all-star and he's rushing everything. They're taking away time and space and forcing him to make quicker decisions. K-Low is being exposed, somewhat and rushing things. Lou is being guarded in a similar way and also forcing it. And Vasquez shouldn't even be taking as many 3's as he is. That's never been his game. PnR & floaters were his strength coming in.