JVG will continue to be the imaginary savior for basketball fans worldwide. A time almost 10 years ago when he last coached when having a bottom half (at best) offense and great defense was good enough to get you in the Conference finals. Offensively inept basketball is a thing of the past. Sorry folks, times have changed.
See Hawks, Atlanta.
Casey is going to be here for the rest of the year. Probably next year too unless the team starts really doing bad. Might as well get used to it. I am!
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bryan colangelo wrote: View PostIt gets them psyched like Alec Baldwin in Glengarry Glen Ross.
Thibs, anyone? There's a lot of noise out of the Bulls offices about Thibs running his players into the ground (not untrue) but it might be their management trying to keep their coach in check through the media.
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JawsGT wrote: View PostI can imagine Sterner doing a few lines before his half time interviews lol. Not sure how much effect that would have on players performances though.
Thibs, anyone? There's a lot of noise out of the Bulls offices about Thibs running his players into the ground (not untrue) but it might be their management trying to keep their coach in check through the media.
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bryan colangelo wrote: View PostYou're comparing bitching about NBA coaching to fighting fascism and taking down the man.
a) Casey's is not persecuting you personally with your coaching. b) what you know about the organization, it's coach, it's players, is only the final product of the floor — which is only 10% of the all the work that goes in to making an NBA basketball team. It's the only 10% that matters, and the funnest 10% to talk about, but in reality, even the most 'knowledgeable' fan knows almost shit all about what really is happening behind the scenes.
Maybe their showcasing GV and Hansbrough before the deadline. Maybe JJ is an alcoholic. Maybe Nick Nurse is an alcoholic, and Casey has been understaffed. Maybe Masai has put Casey on notice, and Casey is now coaching for his life. All this kind of shit would impact coaching decisions.
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golden wrote: View PostJust wow. Imagine living in a world where you assumed that all of the people currently in leadership positions were 100% right all of the time and completely above critique.
a) Casey's is not persecuting you personally with your coaching. b) what you know about the organization, it's coach, it's players, is only the final product of the floor — which is only 10% of the all the work that goes in to making an NBA basketball team. It's the only 10% that matters, and the funnest 10% to talk about, but in reality, even the most 'knowledgeable' fan knows almost shit all about what really is happening behind the scenes.
Maybe their showcasing GV and Hansbrough before the deadline. Maybe JJ is an alcoholic. Maybe Nick Nurse is an alcoholic, and Casey has been understaffed. Maybe Masai has put Casey on notice, and Casey is now coaching for his life. All this kind of shit would impact coaching decisions.
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ceez wrote: View Posthe's been away from coaching too long
i want a bright, young mind.
I'd rather MU go the route of Atlanta when they plucked Budenholzer off Pops' staff.
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I feel like there have been plenty of other coaching opportunities in the last 8 years for JVG to take and if he didn't take them then he won't wanna coach us. I mean at the start of every single coach search his name comes up and is quickly dropped once he says he likes broadcasting.
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I would love JVG as a coach. I think he's one of a very small group of very good, experienced NBA coaches that could conceivably come to Toronto and would be a definite upgrade over Casey.
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golden wrote: View PostJust wow. Imagine living in a world where you assumed that all of the people currently in leadership positions were 100% right all of the time and completely above critique.
The world isn't black and white.
Of course they're not right all the time, and forums such as these are mostly about critique.
I've said on a number of occasions I don't care if he's fired or not. That's fact
I don't consider him a particularly good coach by NBA standards That's opinion.
But if I think i know how to coach the Toronto Raptors better than Duane Casey, or any other NBA coach, that's delusion.
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Thibodeau maybe available after the season if the smoke in Chicago is real. Great coach but I fear he maybe too inflexible re how hard (reportedly) he is on his players. His mantra is practice, practice, practice....the only way to get good.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...beyond-repair/
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostHuman nature.
There are always people who think they're smarter than real NBA coaches,
The one I remember best is in 2010 reading some Laker poster explaining that Phil Jackson's substitution patters were all wrong. That was the season he won his 11th coaching ring.
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OldSkoolCool wrote: View PostJust because some people have criticized Phil Jackson doesn't mean the people who have criticized Casey are wrong. Just because we are armchair GMs and Couch Coaches, doesn't mean our opinions are automatically invalid when compared to what one person is doing, seemingly against many opinions (not just RR's)
Nice try though.
(He was referring to the notion that only poor people can come up with solutions for the poor)
Same idea though.
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