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  • tDotted wrote: View Post
    Cousins would destroy chemistry.
    TALENT wins in this league not chemistry.
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    • TRex wrote: View Post
      TALENT wins in this league not chemistry.
      2014 San Antonio Spurs vs Miami Heat shows that this is nowhere near an absolute.

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      • TRex wrote: View Post
        TALENT wins in this league not chemistry.
        I think you need to take a second and reflect on this....

        Miami might have made 4 straight finals and won 2 in a row...but they lost twice to what many people would consider less talented teams.

        There was that finals about a decade ago when the 4 future HOFer Lakers got beat by the possibly no future HOFer Pistons.

        You can't win without high level of talent. It's not like the examples I just brought up were untalented teams. However, chemistry probably is the key ingredient overall. You can be the most talented team in the league and still lose in the finals to a team with better chemistry (ie a team that plays better as a team).

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        • Scraptor wrote: View Post
          2014 San Antonio Spurs vs Miami Heat shows that this is nowhere near an absolute.
          The Spurs have Duncan, Parker, Ginobili and Leonard. 3 future HOF'ers and a pretty good young player.

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          • white men can't jump wrote: View Post
            I think you need to take a second and reflect on this....

            Miami might have made 4 straight finals and won 2 in a row...but they lost twice to what many people would consider less talented teams.

            There was that finals about a decade ago when the 4 future HOFer Lakers got beat by the possibly no future HOFer Pistons.

            You can't win without high level of talent. It's not like the examples I just brought up were untalented teams. However, chemistry probably is the key ingredient overall. You can be the most talented team in the league and still lose in the finals to a team with better chemistry (ie a team that plays better as a team).
            The 2004 Pistons team was the only exception for sure.

            The Mavs team that beat the Heat had Dirk. One of the 10 greatest player to ever play the game. #Talent
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            • TRex wrote: View Post
              TALENT wins in this league not chemistry.
              Not to be lost in this obviously poorly thought out statement is how important the character of your talented players is in establishing a winning foundation and chemistry. Melo's been arguably the best scorer in the league since being drafted. An undeniably talented guy...who it's just really hard to build a team around, and at least partly because he's just not a very good leader. The way he plays just doesn't necessarily help foster chemistry.

              There have been tons of talented guys who have been difficult pieces to build with.

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              • TRex wrote: View Post
                The 2004 Pistons team was the only exception for sure.

                The Mavs team that beat the Heat had Dirk. One of the 10 greatest player to ever play the game. #Talent
                They didn't have more talent than Miami. So your statement is still poorly thought out.

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                • white men can't jump wrote: View Post
                  Not to be lost in this obviously poorly thought out statement is how important the character of your talented players is in establishing a winning foundation and chemistry. Melo's been arguably the best scorer in the league since being drafted. An undeniably talented guy...who it's just really hard to build a team around, and at least partly because he's just not a very good leader. The way he plays just doesn't necessarily help foster chemistry.

                  There have been tons of talented guys who have been difficult pieces to build with.
                  Good point about Melo.

                  But if you bring in Cousins, Lowry would have to maintain his role as "leader" of the locker room.

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                  • white men can't jump wrote: View Post
                    They didn't have more talent than Miami. So your statement is still poorly thought out.
                    Yeah but Dirk was the best player in that series. The point is you need talent to win lol.

                    Chandler that year was the DPOY. They had Kidd, past his prime i know but he was still pretty effective.
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                    • TRex wrote: View Post
                      Yeah but Dirk was the best player in that series. The point is you need talent to win lol.

                      Chandler that year was the DPOY. They had Kidd, past his prime i know but he was still pretty effective.
                      You need talent, but you can with with less talent and great chemistry. You can't win just with talent if you lack chemistry. Therefore chemistry is more important. Or at the very worst, just as important.

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                      • TRex wrote: View Post
                        The 2004 Pistons team was the only exception for sure.

                        The Mavs team that beat the Heat had Dirk. One of the 10 greatest player to ever play the game. #Talent
                        But... the Heat team that LOST had THREE future HOFers (yes Bosh will be one). Of those three, one can also be argued as a top 10 player ever.

                        Can't win this one, trust me.

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                        • white men can't jump wrote: View Post
                          You need talent, but you can with with less talent and great chemistry. You can't win just with talent if you lack chemistry. Therefore chemistry is more important.
                          Yes, but it's not a foregone conclusion that Cousins would kill chemistry. It's just speculation.

                          If Rasheed Wallace, Dennis Rodman and Zach Randolph type personalities can find rosters to thrive in, I can't see why Cousins can't, especially on a perennial playoff team (which the Raptors are slowly becoming).

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                          • white men can't jump wrote: View Post
                            You need talent, but you can with with less talent and great chemistry. You can't win just with talent if you lack chemistry. Therefore chemistry is more important. Or at the very worst, just as important.
                            So you're saying the Raps has a chance to win the Championship this year? wanna bet?

                            Talent wins in this league, not chemistry. 2004 Pistons team the only exception. By talent i mean SUPERSTAR talent, not borderline all stars like DeRozan and Lowry.
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                            • TRex wrote: View Post
                              So you're saying the Raps has a chance to win the Championship this year? wanna bet?
                              Nope, coach sucks. But that's for #FireCasey haha

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                              • TRex wrote: View Post
                                So you're saying the Raps has a chance to win the Championship this year? wanna bet?

                                Talent wins in this league, not chemistry. 2004 Pistons team the only exception. By talent i mean SUPERSTAR talent, not borderline all stars like DeRozan and Lowry.
                                So you are saying that last years Parker, Tim and Kawhi, who pretty much ran over super talented heat with bulldozer, had the SUPERSTAR talent? You should think before writting, at least short term memory is useful here.
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