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  • #61
    Mindlessness wrote: View Post
    Really? I've heard he's an above-average defensive player. Nevertheless I'd give up Ross+Expirings+Picks for Hayward. If we flip DD to ORL for Harris and then sign Green of course. :P

    Dream offseason for me.
    IMHO Heyward would be a great SF on the Raptors but jazz are building around him

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    • #62
      charlesnba23 wrote: View Post
      Raptors should play the wait and see game. IMO, they should not trade anybody, neither right now or this summer.

      1. IMO, Raptors don't need a new backup center. They should bring all the main guys back, and play JV more than 30 MPG.
      2. As much as I like Lou, I'd like to see Ross as the backup SG next season. He could become a really good 6th man.
      3. That being said, I'd start Patterson at the 4, and bring in a lockdown defender at the 3. Not necessarily a 3 point specialist.
      4. The rest is depending on who we draft with our first round draft pick. Do not trade it, keep the player.
      5. Sign free agents to complete the 3rd unit, whether it's our guys or other free agents.


      Valanciunas/Hansbrough/Nogueira
      Patterson/Johnson/FA or rookie
      ?????/Johnson/Caboclo
      DeRozan/Ross/FA or rookie
      Lowry/Vasquez/FA or rookie
      1) Hands isn't a backup C, he is a PF.
      2) if your starting 2pat then start JJ
      3) we should target a backup 4/5 and SF who is good for 3&D.

      I like the look of..
      Lowry / Vasquez
      DD / Ross
      JJ / ?? / Bruno
      2pat / Amir
      JV / ?? / Bebe

      Then also grab a third string combo PG / SG and bring back Chuck on the vet min.

      Lou could potentially be used in combo with expirings and maybe a pick to nab a starting PF such as Taj Gibson and a backup SF; moving Amir to backup C.

      Or we just coast out as is. But if we do the latter than this year I doubt we make noise in the playoffs, a move like the one above, to me, with good seeding gets us past the first and maybe second round.

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      • #63
        Even green and plumlee from Phoenix would be solid backups at the SF and C. Though they won't care about Lou because they have guard overload so idk what that would take and I doubt a combo of fields, hands & picks would do it.

        There is also a possibility of just trying to pry plumlee or some other solid back up center and keep the combo or GV / Lou / Ross as out 1,2&3. But Ross is better at the 2.

        Decisions, decisions...

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        • #64
          Raptors could have just signed Whiteside and or Hamilton instead of Steamer and picking up TH if they are just trading him as an expiring.

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          • #65
            raptors999 wrote: View Post
            Raptors could have just signed Whiteside and or Hamilton instead of Steamer and picking up TH if they are just trading him as an expiring.
            Can't live in the past with what if's, gotta look forward as to what can be done now.

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            • #66
              breakin_ankles wrote: View Post
              Can't live in the past with what if's, gotta look forward as to what can be done now.
              Just question why Steimsa made the team if he never plays. The other two are younger and the same price

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              • #67
                raptors999 wrote: View Post
                Just question why Steimsa made the team if he never plays. The other two are younger and the same price
                Which I understand, but honestly we are half way through the season and have to look elsewhere because we kept an unnecessary guy (not really but he isn't used) instead of gambling on somebody else who honestly probably wouldn't have played either.

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                • #68
                  breakin_ankles wrote: View Post
                  1) Hands isn't a backup C, he is a PF.
                  2) if your starting 2pat then start JJ
                  3) we should target a backup 4/5 and SF who is good for 3&D.

                  I like the look of..
                  Lowry / Vasquez
                  DD / Ross
                  JJ / ?? / Bruno
                  2pat / Amir
                  JV / ?? / Bebe

                  Then also grab a third string combo PG / SG and bring back Chuck on the vet min.

                  Lou could potentially be used in combo with expirings and maybe a pick to nab a starting PF such as Taj Gibson and a backup SF; moving Amir to backup C.

                  Or we just coast out as is. But if we do the latter than this year I doubt we make noise in the playoffs, a move like the one above, to me, with good seeding gets us past the first and maybe second round.
                  Right now, Hansbrough is our backup C. How is Amir more of a backup C? With JV and Nogueira both a year older, I don't think we need a new backup C.

                  Having Lowry, Vasquez, Ross and Patterson, plus DeMar who can shoot without being a 40% 3pt shooter, I just don't think we need another legit 3point threat. Just a LOCKDOWN defenser who's a better overall player than JJ, that's why I still have him as the backup SF.

                  Ross is your backup 3&D guy and the backups are already there.

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                  • #69
                    charlesnba23 wrote: View Post
                    Right now, Hansbrough is our backup C. How is Amir more of a backup C? With JV and Nogueira both a year older, I don't think we need a new backup C.

                    Having Lowry, Vasquez, Ross and Patterson, plus DeMar who can shoot without being a 40% 3pt shooter, I just don't think we need another legit 3point threat. Just a LOCKDOWN defenser who's a better overall player than JJ, that's why I still have him as the backup SF.

                    Ross is your backup 3&D guy and the backups are already there.
                    Ross is the 3 guy but usually they accept his D. Really they are looking for John Salmons but not so crappy.

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                    • #70
                      raptors999 wrote: View Post
                      Ross is the 3 guy but usually they accept his D. Really they are looking for John Salmons but not so crappy.
                      What?

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                      • #71
                        raptors999 wrote: View Post
                        Ross is the 3 guy but usually they accept his D. Really they are looking for John Salmons but not so crappy.
                        So, any SF who is not John Salmons.
                        twitter.com/dhackett1565

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                        • #72
                          raptors999 wrote: View Post
                          Sorry that was for Harris. Green is the same except not great offensively at either.
                          This is why my dream scenario is getting both Harris and Green. Probably at the cost of DD or alternatively Ross plus picks. Running the pair out at 3/4 gives solid rebounding at both spots, a good primary offensive player in Harris, and both are very good from 3 when playing off the ball, while both can defend adequately at either position, while Green takes the harder defensive assignment.
                          twitter.com/dhackett1565

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                          • #73
                            Heyward wouldn't be a bad option if the Jazz would take Ross.
                            Axel wrote:
                            Now Cody can stop posting about this guy and we have a poster to blame if anything goes wrong!!
                            KeonClark wrote:
                            We won't hear back from him. He dissapears into thin air and reappears when you least expect it. Ten is an enigma. Ten is a legend. Ten for the motherfucking win.
                            KeonClark wrote:
                            I can't wait until the playoffs start.

                            Until then, opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they most often stink

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                            • #74
                              Cody73 wrote: View Post
                              Heyward wouldn't be a bad option if the Jazz would take Ross.
                              Hayward's in year-1 of his new fat contract. Even if the Jazz were willing to ship him, we'd have to gut our roster to get it done.

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                              • #75
                                Nilanka wrote: View Post
                                Hayward's in year-1 of his new fat contract. Even if the Jazz were willing to ship him, we'd have to gut our roster to get it done.
                                I know... I really don't know who to nab that might be available at the 3 or 4. Maybe Dudley from the Bucks?

                                Seriously... who could we get that actually will be helpful and not take everything we have?

                                Not much I guess... unless we go low and get something on the cheap, basically a veteran/struggling newbie. (Ex: Copeland from Indy?)
                                Last edited by Cody73; Fri Feb 6, 2015, 12:16 PM.
                                Axel wrote:
                                Now Cody can stop posting about this guy and we have a poster to blame if anything goes wrong!!
                                KeonClark wrote:
                                We won't hear back from him. He dissapears into thin air and reappears when you least expect it. Ten is an enigma. Ten is a legend. Ten for the motherfucking win.
                                KeonClark wrote:
                                I can't wait until the playoffs start.

                                Until then, opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they most often stink

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