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  • The Great One
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    RandomGuy wrote: View Post
    So you are saying that last years Parker, Tim and Kawhi, who pretty much ran over super talented heat with bulldozer, had the SUPERSTAR talent? You should think before writting, at least short term memory is useful here.
    I think you're the one who should think first before posting lol.

    Tim Duncan. Tony Parker. Manu Ginobili. They're pretty good. Future Hall of Famers. Yeah i think you can call them superstar players.

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  • CalgaryRapsFan
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    TRex wrote: View Post
    So you're saying the Raps has a chance to win the Championship this year? wanna bet?

    Talent wins in this league, not chemistry. 2004 Pistons team the only exception. By talent i mean SUPERSTAR talent, not borderline all stars like DeRozan and Lowry.
    Doesn't the bold prove the point that talent + chemistry > talent alone, even if the talent without chemistry is superior to the lesser talent that has chemistry?

    Chemistry isn't just in the locker room or how well the players get along. It's all about fit, knowing/accepting roles, and having complementary talent. Just look at how the US has lost international competitions when they just threw the best individual players together and expected to walk all over lesser teams - that's why Coach K was brought in, because the US realized how important chemistry was, even when assembling the most talented team possible.

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  • The Great One
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    tDotted wrote: View Post
    But... the Heat team that LOST had THREE future HOFers (yes Bosh will be one). Of those three, one can also be argued as a top 10 player ever.

    Can't win this one, trust me.
    It doesn't really matter if the Heat had 10 future HOF'ers. The Mavs had Dirk. Who's a future hall of famer himself.

    One player in this league makes all the difference in the world.

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  • RandomGuy
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    TRex wrote: View Post
    So you're saying the Raps has a chance to win the Championship this year? wanna bet?

    Talent wins in this league, not chemistry. 2004 Pistons team the only exception. By talent i mean SUPERSTAR talent, not borderline all stars like DeRozan and Lowry.
    So you are saying that last years Parker, Tim and Kawhi, who pretty much ran over super talented heat with bulldozer, had the SUPERSTAR talent? You should think before writting, at least short term memory is useful here.

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  • tDotted
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    TRex wrote: View Post
    So you're saying the Raps has a chance to win the Championship this year? wanna bet?
    Nope, coach sucks. But that's for #FireCasey haha

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  • The Great One
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    white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    You need talent, but you can with with less talent and great chemistry. You can't win just with talent if you lack chemistry. Therefore chemistry is more important. Or at the very worst, just as important.
    So you're saying the Raps has a chance to win the Championship this year? wanna bet?

    Talent wins in this league, not chemistry. 2004 Pistons team the only exception. By talent i mean SUPERSTAR talent, not borderline all stars like DeRozan and Lowry.

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  • Nilanka
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    white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    You need talent, but you can with with less talent and great chemistry. You can't win just with talent if you lack chemistry. Therefore chemistry is more important.
    Yes, but it's not a foregone conclusion that Cousins would kill chemistry. It's just speculation.

    If Rasheed Wallace, Dennis Rodman and Zach Randolph type personalities can find rosters to thrive in, I can't see why Cousins can't, especially on a perennial playoff team (which the Raptors are slowly becoming).

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  • tDotted
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    TRex wrote: View Post
    The 2004 Pistons team was the only exception for sure.

    The Mavs team that beat the Heat had Dirk. One of the 10 greatest player to ever play the game. #Talent
    But... the Heat team that LOST had THREE future HOFers (yes Bosh will be one). Of those three, one can also be argued as a top 10 player ever.

    Can't win this one, trust me.

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  • white men can't jump
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    TRex wrote: View Post
    Yeah but Dirk was the best player in that series. The point is you need talent to win lol.

    Chandler that year was the DPOY. They had Kidd, past his prime i know but he was still pretty effective.
    You need talent, but you can with with less talent and great chemistry. You can't win just with talent if you lack chemistry. Therefore chemistry is more important. Or at the very worst, just as important.

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  • The Great One
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    white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    They didn't have more talent than Miami. So your statement is still poorly thought out.
    Yeah but Dirk was the best player in that series. The point is you need talent to win lol.

    Chandler that year was the DPOY. They had Kidd, past his prime i know but he was still pretty effective.

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  • Nilanka
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    white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Not to be lost in this obviously poorly thought out statement is how important the character of your talented players is in establishing a winning foundation and chemistry. Melo's been arguably the best scorer in the league since being drafted. An undeniably talented guy...who it's just really hard to build a team around, and at least partly because he's just not a very good leader. The way he plays just doesn't necessarily help foster chemistry.

    There have been tons of talented guys who have been difficult pieces to build with.
    Good point about Melo.

    But if you bring in Cousins, Lowry would have to maintain his role as "leader" of the locker room.

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  • white men can't jump
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    TRex wrote: View Post
    The 2004 Pistons team was the only exception for sure.

    The Mavs team that beat the Heat had Dirk. One of the 10 greatest player to ever play the game. #Talent
    They didn't have more talent than Miami. So your statement is still poorly thought out.

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  • white men can't jump
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    TRex wrote: View Post
    TALENT wins in this league not chemistry.
    Not to be lost in this obviously poorly thought out statement is how important the character of your talented players is in establishing a winning foundation and chemistry. Melo's been arguably the best scorer in the league since being drafted. An undeniably talented guy...who it's just really hard to build a team around, and at least partly because he's just not a very good leader. The way he plays just doesn't necessarily help foster chemistry.

    There have been tons of talented guys who have been difficult pieces to build with.

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  • The Great One
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    white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    I think you need to take a second and reflect on this....

    Miami might have made 4 straight finals and won 2 in a row...but they lost twice to what many people would consider less talented teams.

    There was that finals about a decade ago when the 4 future HOFer Lakers got beat by the possibly no future HOFer Pistons.

    You can't win without high level of talent. It's not like the examples I just brought up were untalented teams. However, chemistry probably is the key ingredient overall. You can be the most talented team in the league and still lose in the finals to a team with better chemistry (ie a team that plays better as a team).
    The 2004 Pistons team was the only exception for sure.

    The Mavs team that beat the Heat had Dirk. One of the 10 greatest player to ever play the game. #Talent

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  • The Great One
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    Scraptor wrote: View Post
    2014 San Antonio Spurs vs Miami Heat shows that this is nowhere near an absolute.
    The Spurs have Duncan, Parker, Ginobili and Leonard. 3 future HOF'ers and a pretty good young player.

    Next.

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