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  • peanutwoozle
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    Quintarka wrote: View Post
    I wouldn't blame Lowry out right, but there does seem a disconnect between front court players and back players on both sides of the ball.
    I think it has to do with all that all-star nonsense getting to their heads and now Lowry thinks he can "do whatever I want and get away with it"

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  • Raptor Jesus
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    e_wheazhy_ wrote: View Post
    Mystery solved, casey doesn't want JV to be scouted before the playoffs, he's keeping him fresh and a secret weapon until the second round or ECF when we face Cleveland
    Logged in at work just to big this up.

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  • Quintarka
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    I wouldn't blame Lowry out right, but there does seem a disconnect between front court players and back players on both sides of the ball.

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  • e_wheazhy_
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    Mystery solved, casey doesn't want JV to be scouted before the playoffs, he's keeping him fresh and a secret weapon until the second round or ECF when we face Cleveland

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  • yabadabayolo
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    Mindlessness wrote: View Post
    Dude, we've fallen to 4th in ORTG. Where'd you get the 2nd in the NBA thing?
    Woah why does basketball reference have two differnt values for offensive rating ?

    Anyone know which one is correct ?

    EDIT:
    my source uses cumulative stats for the entire year. Meaning it takes all the stats from the entire year and dividing it by the number of games.
    Mindlessness source weighs the offensive rating for each game equally. Meaning it takes the individual rating for each game and divides it by the number of games
    Last edited by yabadabayolo; Sun Mar 8, 2015, 01:43 PM.

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  • yabadabayolo
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    Mindlessness wrote: View Post
    Dude, we've fallen to 4th in ORTG. Where'd you get the 2nd in the NBA thing?
    My bad should've included it in the post.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...5_ratings.html
    Click on the ortg tab at the top of the table

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  • Mindlessness
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    Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    Offence isn't the problem. In case you haven't noticed yet, even through this slump we've been in, our offence is still ranked 2nd in the nba. It may not be the prettiest type of basketball but you can't argue with the analytical of it.

    What needs help is the defence. It's utter shit. If that's what they do during practice, that's totally fine ! It needs major work.
    Dude, we've fallen to 4th in ORTG. Where'd you get the 2nd in the NBA thing?

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  • yabadabayolo
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    distorsun wrote: View Post
    3rd: It's not Lowry's fault. It's something they could work on, but since the coaching staff don,t practice OFFENSE, it's hard to do things consistently well at that end of the floor. So they may feed JV every now and then, but that's about it.
    Offence isn't the problem. In case you haven't noticed yet, even through this slump we've been in, our offence is still ranked 2nd in the nba. It may not be the prettiest type of basketball but you can't argue with the analytical of it.

    What needs help is the defence. It's utter shit. If that's what they do during practice, that's totally fine ! It needs major work.

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  • distorsun
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    First of all. It WILL HURT us in the Poffs.
    2nd: I am under the impression that I'm watching Rudy Gay again
    3rd: It's not Lowry's fault. It's something they could work on, but since the coaching staff don,t practice OFFENSE, it's hard to do things consistently well at that end of the floor. So they may feed JV every now and then, but that's about it.


    ball4life wrote: View Post
    There is a hierarchy within this team.

    Lowry at the top and his job is to feed those who below him. And there is a few players that are higher up in the hierarchy than JV. When certain players are not playing, JV moves up in the hierarchy. when they return, he obviously goes down the list.

    It has nothing to do with the players themselves. It has everything to do with the "roles" the coaching staff assign players to act accordingly.

    Some players are thought to be "scorers" despite their efficiency. Hence they get the first bite before they feed the next one up (JV).

    old schcool coaches believe in their philosophy and react to changes instead of being proactive. i just hope it doesnt hurt us in the playoffs.

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  • rightsideup
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    I cannot recall which game it was but when dd was out kyle set Jonas up for numerous touches. I think to be more versatile in our offense we do need an inside outside game. Look how effective big Al Jefferson was with charlotte points plus 5 assists I think. This is crucial to Jonas development and the teams success is that we can have that kinda presence in not only scoring in the post but kicking it back out when the double team comes. He is still young and this can happen.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    It is not Lowry alone.

    It is not JV alone.

    The entire backcourt is equally to blame for the lack of involvement with the bigs.

    Every single guard on the team has, overall, become a black hole.

    There are specific instances where every player can be said they get it to the bigs. But overall, looking at the season as a whole, the backcourt are a group of chuckers.


    No matter how you slice it the responsibility falls back to Casey. It would appear this is the game plan, therefore that is on him. If it is not the gameplan, then he has no accountability with the backcourt and the inmates are running the asylum. Either way, that falls on Casey.

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  • Puffer
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    DDelight wrote: View Post
    He was. All the way up until DeMar's return. Since then, Lowry has acted like JV has dropped off the face of the planet. And you can't blame DeMar returning for why that's happened, because as you said...Lowry at the beginning of the season (before DeMar's injury) was making a point to get JV involved.

    I don't know what made him stop. But I know the coaching staff has some influence on JV's touches because just look at the Cleveland game. It was obvious from the start that JV was a point of emphasis and he finished with 17 shots. That doesn't just happen because the players woke up deciding they wanted to give it to JV. The coaches definitely said something...why they don't want to play that way every game is the mystery.
    When DD came back there was a concerted effort to get him the ball to help him get back into the flow of games as quickly as possible. Who Lowry feeds is also a result of Casey's game plan, when he has determined that certain matchups are i the Raps favour. So different players are emphasized.

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  • ball4life
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    There is a hierarchy within this team.

    Lowry at the top and his job is to feed those who below him. And there is a few players that are higher up in the hierarchy than JV. When certain players are not playing, JV moves up in the hierarchy. when they return, he obviously goes down the list.

    It has nothing to do with the players themselves. It has everything to do with the "roles" the coaching staff assign players to act accordingly.

    Some players are thought to be "scorers" despite their efficiency. Hence they get the first bite before they feed the next one up (JV).

    old schcool coaches believe in their philosophy and react to changes instead of being proactive. i just hope it doesnt hurt us in the playoffs.
    Last edited by ball4life; Sun Mar 8, 2015, 05:24 AM.

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  • DDelight
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    nubreed000 wrote: View Post
    I don't have a statistic for this, but wasn't lowry the only guy feeding JV earlier in the season?
    He was. All the way up until DeMar's return. Since then, Lowry has acted like JV has dropped off the face of the planet. And you can't blame DeMar returning for why that's happened, because as you said...Lowry at the beginning of the season (before DeMar's injury) was making a point to get JV involved.

    I don't know what made him stop. But I know the coaching staff has some influence on JV's touches because just look at the Cleveland game. It was obvious from the start that JV was a point of emphasis and he finished with 17 shots. That doesn't just happen because the players woke up deciding they wanted to give it to JV. The coaches definitely said something...why they don't want to play that way every game is the mystery.

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  • Just Is
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    nubreed000 wrote: View Post
    I don't have a statistic for this, but wasn't lowry the only guy feeding JV earlier in the season?
    He pretty much was. I can't remember which game it was now but he gave an interview during the half of one game, specifically mentioning how much he plans to feed JV this year.

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